Foreverteachable said:
I tried out an F 22 yesterday on a lawn in Oneonta, NY that was loaded with coal, coke, and iron. It seemed like someone emptied their fire pit or coal stove out in the yard but I found a dozen wheaties, 2 silver dimes, 2 buttons and some old toys. In between the iron chatter I could sift through and find the good tones. I sure am impressed. I hunted mostly with a whites classic SL and a DFX in the past and was used to slow sweeping trashy sites for targets but ran into trouble on lawns with the same type of debris. Is this great ability to cut through the old coal debris and trash the norm with Fishers and if so is the F70 or patriot ALOT better than the F22? I must say being a Whites and Troy Shadow guy, I sure was impressed by the Fisher F22. Thanks!
I went from an F2 to an F70.
I used both for hundreds and hundreds of hours in both fantastically great almost perfect soil out west in Kansas and Missouri and also in the mineralized, iron and trash infested devil dirt here in the deep south.
With that F2 I found tons of coins, (won most coins award 3 years running at my club), older coins, relics and I was mostly a jewelry hunter at that time and I found a huge amount of silver and a pretty unbelievable amount of gold.
In three years I found over $2000 worth of treasure and sold a lot of extra F2's because of the millions of glowing words I wrote about it on most forums.
There is no bigger fan of this lower frequency powerhouse than me.
As happy as I was using it I always wondered how well I could do with an upper end Fisher and a bunch of extra settings to play with plus more power.
I was thinking hard about an F75 but a brand new F70 at $400 passed my way and I jumped on it....and never looked back.
From the first hunt with the F70 my jaw dropped and in 4 years it has not came back up yet.
I found tiny silver deep on my first hunt, a huge gold ring on my 4th in a severely trashy picnic site and I didn't have a clue about using it or utilizing most of the extra settings at that time.
I immediately realized I was able to hunt at a deeper level than that F2 consistently, as time went on and I learned how all the extra settings worked I went back to extremely challenging sites I had hunted so many times before and since then have used it at so many more that were so difficult that most others avoided them like the plague.
Also I visited many that were considered totally hunted out by most.
In all of them I was wildly successful...way more than I ever thought possible.
It was all that power and the many different setting combinations I found that made it all possible.
As much as I loved that F2 my F70 found me so much more in those oh so difficult sites that the F2 just didn't have the tools and ability to conquer.
The F2 wasn't bad at all but after learning to understand it at such a deep level I just maxed out its capabilities.
The minute I picked up the F70 I jumped into a deeper level...deeper not only in depth but in total ability and ease of use.
Is the F70/Patriot A LOT better than the lower end Fisher units...that depends on what you are hunting for and what kind of places you hunt.
For normal sites and most normal depth targets those lower end Fishers work just fine, as you have discovered.
My F2 could find coins on edge, great targets in trash and/or iron, could find them at decently deep levels and performed extremely well for what it cost.
The F70 could do all that too but it could also do so much more way deeper and it could do it way, way better in the most difficult sites you can imagine
Most surprising to me is how well that thing works in my mineralized SE. dirt which shocked me because the F2 just couldn't deal with this devil dirt anywhere near as well.
The things I can do with the F70 are at a whole completely different level which is exactly what I needed to advance my career and skill set into areas I could only dream of.
I have a ton of pics of the treasure I found using mine all over this forum in the F Series and Today's finds sections so look them up and judge that for yourself if you like.
So that is what you need to determine for yourself, is the entry level detector area where you want to be or do you think you you would be better served by a unit with more power, shocking depth and more settings and abilities.
I can't say I actually have way more fun and enjoy my F70 over my F2 at all, I was thrilled to hunt with both and I don't regret standing behind either one for even one minute.
What did change for me after upgrading is my perception of what was possible to recover using one over the other.
I did great with the F2 but there was still a success level I could get to and no further whereas with the F70 I don't think there is a limit to the success I can achieve.
At least I don't believe I have come close to any limit as of yet.
But that is me, all of this is subjective and your mileage may very but to answer your question using my knowledge, experiences and parameters yea...the upper end is a lot better than entry level in the Fisher line or more capable of success at the least.
All the Fishers are great at what they do, actually, where you end up on that features and abilities curve that will satisfy you and make you happy is going to be totally up to you.