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New :teknetics: G2 ... READ THIS ... The complete post on my evaluation.

just gotta keep the disc between 28 and 35 and let the big coil do its thing. I agree with you on the audio as well. Hard to explain but it comes off as sort of a hybrid VCO/beep that suits me better than the pure VCO on the Omega. For example, on some targets, especially big iron the VCO squeal seems to be replaced with a iron crack/beep response. Whatever way you want to characterize it, it suits my hearing better.

Great job Dave and crew!!!

Tom
 
I haven't seen much posted on it yet, but mine does pretty darned good on coins too! (in the central NC dirt). I'm getting good visual ID silver hits at depth similar to my vanilla F75 and Omega. Not as "loud" due to the modulation but VERY consistent. What blows my poor ol' noggin is the fact that it isn't supposed to do that! Low/mid conductors...yes. High conductors? NO...it shouldn't, but it does.

There are other machines "better suited" for coin hunting, no doubt (Omega in particular). However, if one tunes his ears to the modulated whispers, checks the ID and depth....well, you may be surprised how it works as a old coin machine! Most impressive is its ability to pluck coins out of the trash...especially in with iron.
 
I would like to have this addressed by the company why is it such a good coin hunter what was their intent whren they designed this G2 but what the frack if it works and it does so be it.
 
the sliding tone break I feel is the key to its ability to pluck em out of iron. Because co-located iron drags down the ID on high conductors, checking out ALL signals that register 40 and above from off angles to see if the ID jumps up is the ticket to success with the G2. These are coins that with previous machines either sound off as iron or give no response at all unless you hunt a site from many different directions. The Omega in d2 disc 1 in many cases cannot replicate this. Now with that said most targets encountered in iron trash give 'close enough' ID but its those occasional 'unseen' by other machines targets that we all are looking for and the G2 gets em for you. :thumbup:

Until something else comes along with this ability in a lower freq design the G2 for me is IMO the best pick so far for serious iron hunting whether after relics OR coins.

Tom
 
Yeah it gets us closer to finding those hidden relics and coins. We are getting more help from better machines then ever before and the G2 is going to be a great machine for us to save history. I bet it is a great gold machine also!
 
Do you know if the gold bug se has this sliding tone break? I am just trying to figure out if there are any real differences between the gold bug pro,gold bug se, and the G2 before I buy one.

Also thank you for your great post Monte, I always look forward to reading and re reading your informative posts.
 
for a 19 kHz detector designed for it's multi-tasking, it excels as a gold nugget detector and does surprisingly well for most coin hunting needs.

Due to the VCO audio drop off and the modulated audio at depth, it does call for a little attention to the audio. But if you are working any trashy sites, and especially if you've got the 5" DD on the working end of the rod, the G2 is quite impressive. It was an immediate 'fit' in my arsenal before I ever finished my evaluation simply because what it does do, it does it well.

Monte
 
I agree that the variable or sliding scale of the Low and VCO high tone audio is a key to some of the versatility this model will provide.

I am also in agreement that doing what it does, at 19kHz, is very nice, but it would also make a good fit at a lower frequency. hey, maybe use the same G2 and Omega rod system and have them provide s with a 7.8 kHz version that is otherwise almost the same? Call it the R2, since I relate the 'G' in G2 to reference a Gold Nugget detector, just make a similar design, almost identical in adjustment but maybe one or two changes, and with the same housing and rod system and package it as the R2 ... with 'R' suggesting it is geared toward the Relic Hunter. How's that for an idea?

Eliminate the coin Icon segments. Just be the same in adjustment and display, but at 7.8 kHz. I'd love to see that on the market, also!

Monte
 
if you are keeping the Omega, you have got to get that 5" coil. I have never used a small coil as deadly as that one is for hunting in trash. Its better then the 5" DD I have for my F 75 LTD and I used with the F 75. To me it seems to separate better and gets pretty decent depth. I dug 2 wheats this morning that were all of 5" and I was swinging over very thick 2- 3" tall grass. The signals were just a whisper, but they were there and were a solid 84 vid. 3 other coins were co-located with at least 1 other piece of trash and 1other was right next to a 4" long piece of copper pipe that was setting almost straight up and down in the ground. I don't know if they are all created equal, but the one I have for the Omega is a down right killer in the trash. HH jim tn
 
Monte I hesitate to make depth claims but in fact the 11" DD coil is capable of impressive performance on coins. I have yet to get any deep silver but a couple wheat pennies at depths that in truth I did not believe possible with a 19Khz machine really surprised me. That along with the G2's amazing target ID stability made me re-think what can be done using a high frequency. Would I use it first in a park with modern trash.. No it would not be my first pick for park hunting by a long shot... but for old sites where iron is the main trash item Yeah, it dets the job done.

Tom
 
Yes the Gold Bug SE and Pro share the sliding tone break discrimination function. Performance wise it seems from the posts there is little if any difference betwen the Fisher Gold Bug(s) and the Teknetics G2. The Rod layout is the main difference, with the pistol grip design of the G2 offering a little better balance when using the 11" DD coil.

Tom Z
 
provides exceptional performance, and is well worth the price they are asking for it!

It can be used on the Omega, Gamma, Delta and the new G2. If I didn't have the 5" DD for my units, ... well, I don't know what I would do with those detectors in the nasty junky areas.

Get one! Don't sweep it too quickly, and just enjoy the excellent performance.

Monte
 
I am sure we all have read great initial claims by "testers" or others about fantastic depth because, well, that 'depth' topic seems so important. Yes, the new G2 isn't a wimp. No, it's not the deepest detector I've every used, but for what it is (a 19 kHz model), it is impressive. :thumbup:

Jackpine Savage said:
Monte I hesitate to make depth claims but in fact the 11" DD coil is capable of impressive performance on coins. I have yet to get any deep silver but a couple wheat pennies at depths that in truth I did not believe possible with a 19Khz machine really surprised me.
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No silver for me, yet, with the G2 that I would consider a 'deep' coin, but like you, yes, a few decent depth 'wheat-backs' that were surprising.

I was evaluating the G2 as I would have expected: A 19 kHz 'gold nugget" based detector with the flexibility to serve the needs of coin hunting and relic hunting, should that need arise. Having used a lot of other models in the 15-20 kHz range, from this country and from France, most lack any VDI/TID read-out, and all are usually better performers in an All Metal type search. A marginal, almost 15 kHz that is good is White's MXT & MXT Pro. Excellent detectors in their own right, but for this extra bump in frequency in a light and handy package, I'm just impressed!


Jackpine Savage said:
That along with the G2's amazing target ID stability made me re-think what can be done using a high frequency.
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Tom, as I mentioned in my initial post on my G2 evaluation, the visual ID in the lock-solid VDI is simply impressive! One of the things I thought would be less than acceptable for a high-frequency model, but it is solid on coins and typically uniform shaped, roundish targets, like coins, trade tokes, silver and gold rings, buttons, etc., etc. I, too, had to re-think what I thought was possible from this frequency offering.


Jackpine Savage said:
Would I use it first in a park with modern trash.. No it would not be my first pick for park hunting by a long shot... but for old sites where iron is the main trash item Yeah, it gets the job done.
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I am mostly on track with you here. Mostly, but only because I did use it at a few sites with modern trash and pitted it against my Omega and a Gamma and T2. As of today I see my 3rd 9-V battery is getting rather low, and I'll blame that partly on my desire to get out and hunt, and the nice 66
 
getting that first old silver coin is on my list too! However it won't be my first silver with the G2 since the very first dime found with it was a 64 Rosie. Just one of those flukey but nice happen stances.

Tom
 
I have found some sterling silver jewelry since I started working with the G2, but I want some nice old silver coins. The 289 acre Mt. Tabor Park in Portland might be the place to kick it out for me Thursday. (Closed to vehicles on Wednesday.) So, it's the salty beach today w/11", then the old park tomorrow using the G2 w/5" DD, then we get chilly and rainy weather for about a week to follow.

Monte
 
My plans were great, but I detest nails the most when they are in a tire! :rant: By the time tire store opened and I was able to get that taken care of, I was pressing my luck to try and make a decent run to the beach. I might try it today, but I have an appointment I'm trying to get out of.

Instead of head west to the coast, I went east to one of the older city parks. The good news was that it was warming up and going to be great. The bad news was that we've had some soaking rains and most of the grassy areas are a little more than soggy. I headed to one of the sections where we did very well on silver coins when they first renovated that section, but that was back about '98 and it still kicked some out until about 2002.

Once again, silver wasn't in my future. :( The 11" DD coil performed quite well. The G2 prototype I have worked flawlessly at maximum Sensitivity and I set the Discriminate level at '40' so I'd get a good, solid VCO modulated audio on everything above Iron. The area we did the best at before was back off the main area into what had been overgrown brush. During their renovation they weren't working on this area, specifically, other than whacking all the brush down to about 2". Most silver coins were Mercury dimes, but I did pull a couple of newer Roosevelt's as well as older Barbers. There were some silver quarters and one Walking Liberty half. What made it tough to hunt here was the abundance of trash in the way of old cans, old ring-pull tabs, a lot of tall screw caps, and other assorted discarded trash.

Using the G2 with the 11" DD coil was a little tricky due to a lot of that junk still being there (we did remove some of it), but overall it worked quite well. I got a fair amount of modern change dating from 1965 thru 1990, but the only older change were Wheat-back cents. The VDI report and the audio response told me that if those would have been silver, they would have been mine because the audio hits were good (coins to 4"-5"), and the VDI locked on very well.

With the battery swap to 9-Volt #4, I'm ready as long as the weather is. That means today will be the last chance to head to the coast for a while and I'll try to make it. Once I hit the wet sand, I'll report. If I can't make it there I'll switch gears and work the 11" DD in an open area at a different park where they used to do a little snow sledding ... back when we used to get a little bit of wintry snow in the '60s and earlier.

Monte
 
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