just received my new Vaquero and wondering what is the average depth to expect. I tried an air test and the best I got was twelve inches supertuned. i would have thought it would be a little more or is this about right? Also it didnt seem to matter what I was testing they were all about the same??? what has anyone with a Vaquero got for depth? thanks. my friends V seemed to get deeper on the air test by at least 3-4 inches,could something be wrong with mine? one thing I did also notice when his was supertuned it did not chatter at all but when I did mine I got alot of chatter. How come the difference in the two? is it possible they are tuned differently? maybe some better than others
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new vaquero what depth to expect???
- Thread starter kneedet
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POLEWAGGER
New member
Try a back to back test with your friends with the EXACT same settings.
Mine has gone to unbelievable depths in dry beach sand.
Take it out in different conditions before you worry about the depth.
Make a test coin garden.
Mine has gone to unbelievable depths in dry beach sand.
Take it out in different conditions before you worry about the depth.
Make a test coin garden.
akaudigger
New member
There are a lot of variables that can affect depth performance. Kneedet, were you testing using the same target? Atmospheric conditions, ground mineralization, proximity to electrical interference, can degrade performance. Polewagger has some good advice, build a test garden then compare the detectors over the same targets and same detecting conditions to get comparable data. Not only will this validate or eliminate your concerns, you gain valuable incite to your detectors operation and performance.
vanstheman3
New member
I want to say that do everything advised here and if you don't think your MD is getting proper Depth after trying everything suggested here, Call Tesoro and talk to them about it! I say this because every newbie thinks they have a defective MD. I thought the same then instantly thought I'm just like everybody else I'll just work harder at my MD and Read the Manual again,and practice practice practice! I went Months trying everything I could try from the Manual and a specialty book written about my MD, I took it back to Factory Presets 10 or more times and started over! Well it turned out I got a defective MD from the Factory! A friends MD fried maybe an hour or two after he put it together Brand New! So Like I said try everything suggested here then call Tesoro and if its defective they will know from your description of the Problems. Don't beat your head against a wall to long trying to learn a defective MD Like I did ! But also don't rush to Judgement as I said everyone thinks they got a defective MD,,,, GL & HH Pat
Silver Fox
Member
Just got another Vaquero, I have owned two other Vaquero's in the past. I have got a test garden with a dime at 11" and a quarter at 12" and all three of the Vaquero's hit these targets with a good repeatable sound. As said before would be best make a coin garden and do your test. This depth is in my ground yours might be different. Said you got your new Vaquero, is this your first V? Make sure you GB correctly and then super tune it. Chatter could be your Sen is to high. The Vaquero is one great machine. Good Luck.
POLEWAGGER
New member
kneedet said:
Were the frequencies both set on 1?
I measured the strongest inductive field to be freq1 on my C.
Testing inside can be very tricky. Test outside.
That way you know the GB adj. is exactly the same.
POLEWAGGER
New member
kneedet said:
It's not your first what?
GB will change with freq change, and with different coils.
Ground balance is CRITICAL in obtaining maximum depth.
Tests in my coin garden with my modded Cibola confirmed (after the inductive voltage bench test) freq1 to have the strongest signal.
GB both units carefully on the same spot of ground THEN do air tests outside, one at a time, in the same spot. They should be about the same.
Very curious to hear the results.
You have to remember that just because your knobs are in the same position as your friends machine, doesn't mean it is set the same. The knobs are connected to variable resistors (potentiometers) and depending on the position the knobs were tightened down on the shaft and the internal adjustment of the potentiometer there could be a slight difference.
Now that being said, I have owned three different Vaqueros and used two that friends have owned and I have seen a remarkable difference in the depth of these machines. The deepest one I have yet to see was owned by NAD (larry) in Ohio.
Now that being said, I have owned three different Vaqueros and used two that friends have owned and I have seen a remarkable difference in the depth of these machines. The deepest one I have yet to see was owned by NAD (larry) in Ohio.
Some awful good points brought up in this thread and I particularily like the one about where your knobs are set doesn't mean you buddies knobs be set in the same spot your units are exactly the same.
Get out in the field and do a head to head with your buddies and if not satisfied send it back to the factory for a retune.
10-12 inches on a coin with any unit is fine in my book even comparing ones costing much more with a lot of bells and whistles.
Last but not least for gosh sakes do your testing in the area your hunting not in your house where electrical interference for one can goof up any unit..and remember detectors one exact model versus another many have a tolerance difference which could equate to an inch or so ......
Remember Tesoro is very easy to work with and their service after the sale is second to none...
Get out in the field and do a head to head with your buddies and if not satisfied send it back to the factory for a retune.
10-12 inches on a coin with any unit is fine in my book even comparing ones costing much more with a lot of bells and whistles.
Last but not least for gosh sakes do your testing in the area your hunting not in your house where electrical interference for one can goof up any unit..and remember detectors one exact model versus another many have a tolerance difference which could equate to an inch or so ......
Remember Tesoro is very easy to work with and their service after the sale is second to none...
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
Unless someone lives in your neighborhood with an answer, what everyone else gets will not help you. Your ground will tell you what you need to know. Air tests are fine but it doesn't tell you anything about performance in the ground unless your ground is very low in mineralization or no minerals at all. I too get 12 inches or more in air tests but in MY ground I am very lucky to get 5 inches in depth at times with my Cibola. If I go to a white sandy beach, yes 10 to 12 inches is common there. As others have said, a test garden will prove invaluable on this and future detectors.
Air tests don't hold much stock with me as in over 40 years detecting I have yet to find a coin or valuable in the air. Perhaps I am hunting in the wrong places.
I only base a detector's ability by what it can do with buried objects.
As to what to expect from a Vaquero, I've had one a few years now and the more I use it the deeper it seems to find objects.
If you are only going to bring it out every once in awhile and dust it off I should not expect you are going to do too well.
The Vaquero is one of those machines you have to familiarize yourself with.
A big variable is how well can you ground balance your machine.
A poorly ground balanced Vaquero is not going to do too well.
I will advise this, a Vaquero is not a once-in-awhile play around machine.
By the time your Vaquero is showing signs of wear, you will be pleasantly surprised at the depths you are getting.
I only base a detector's ability by what it can do with buried objects.
As to what to expect from a Vaquero, I've had one a few years now and the more I use it the deeper it seems to find objects.
If you are only going to bring it out every once in awhile and dust it off I should not expect you are going to do too well.
The Vaquero is one of those machines you have to familiarize yourself with.
A big variable is how well can you ground balance your machine.
A poorly ground balanced Vaquero is not going to do too well.
I will advise this, a Vaquero is not a once-in-awhile play around machine.
By the time your Vaquero is showing signs of wear, you will be pleasantly surprised at the depths you are getting.
POLEWAGGER
New member
oldcoon said:
I can SO vouch for that statement after a year of addiction level detecting with my modded C.
When I first went to a (dry) sandy beach to detect, I thought I was mistaken at the depths (14"+) I was reaching until I started digging ALL the sand away so there was no chance of the target drifting down while I dug. Sometimes getting more than 5" can be tough with the drastic changes in mineral levels in my soil. Experiment with optimum GB in your test garden.