New XP DEUS User

[huntin4horns]

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I am a new user of the XP Deus with 11 in. and 9 in. coils here in MS. I am a Civil War Relic hunter and I was just looking for any tips one might have?

Which one of the factory programs is the best for finding mini balls, buckles, etc. but also can find silver,coins, etc.?

Or do I need to tweek one of the factory programs? Thanks in advance.

 

[CT Todd]

You have a very nice set up. I'm not a fan of the factory programs at all. At least here in the usa. You didn't mention it but did you get the Book?

 

[huntin4horns]

Yes, i got Andy's book.

 

[squirrel1]

Huntin4horns.

Here's the scoop

You will need to tweek a little to make,the Deus deeper.

You should consider saving the following programs

For areas riddled with iron nails.

Go to Deus fast

Bump sensitivity to 93
Disc to 0
Select full tones
Set audio report to 5

Save in a slot

Then go back to
Deus fast
Bump sens to 93
Disc to 6.0
Select 3 tone
Set your tone breaks as desired
May set 2nd tone to break at 72, and 3rd tone 73-99


Set yourself up a 12 kHz program as well

And maybe a 4 khz program for bottle cap check


Just remember depth on Deus = reactivity 0 or 1 and silencer 0 or -1
And sensitivity above 90
And disc,at 6 or lower.
So if you incorporate these into your programs = good depth

And use which gb method you want, but in the messiest of,sites = manual gb

 

[AIRFORCEMIKE]

good advice right their. Get Andys book and start with his programs.

 

[Potomac run]

n/t

 

[CT Todd]

Good starting points but I don't care for full tones and zero discrim.The rest of the settings are good with 8 discrim and iron volume set to 2-3. Use all the machine has to offer. Good luck

 

[squirrel1]

Well folks should try the following to compare full tones and 0 disc versus using say multiple tones and disc of say levels between 6-8.

Get yourself a roll of tape 2" wide and two 12 penny nails.

Take the Deus and go to disc 6 using say 2 or 3 tone. Use Deus fast program

Drop the dime down in the middle of the tape roll, then place the nails on the top edge of tape roll-- a coin below nails test.

As you face the tape roll for sweeping, position one nail on each side of above and beside dime pointing in the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock directions.

After positioning nails sweep with Deus. If signal on dime is obtained, mover nails closer together. Keep doing this until you get no hint or barely a signal using disc 6 and say 2 or 3 tone.

Leaving test undisturbed for last position, take Deus in Deus facst full tones O disc. Sweep the target. I think you'll find the dime is easier to hear and actually can be obtained with a closer nail positioning beside and over the dime. And see if you notice a small sweep speed advantage comparing the 2.

Also when using disc and 2 or 3 tone. What an op will hear with the dime is more of a iron rejection or nail false with horseshoe switching sides on sweeps--- in full tones 0 disc you won't hear this.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

Good luck with your new Deus !

 

[CO_T\Huntr]

ZERO Disc is really not a good option at all as this takes the horseshoe function
out of the equation completely...
I believe you have to have at least 2.8 Disc to enable the Horseshoe...
and the Deus was designed to run with around 10 Disc with no loss of
depth or sensitivity whatsoever... according to Andy at bootcamp...
you can pass that nail test easily with the Deus in many different configurations
It's the primary reason I bought it... target separation is the best going!
Careful with the Sensitivity.... it doesn't make for much if any increase in depth
and can actually make it less more often than not, as the higher Sens makes
the machine more sensitive to everything including ground clutter small iron
etc.. if you're after a little more depth just bump Trans up to 3, and maybe
lower Sens.
Soil conditions will almost always dictate depth potential... and you can't change that!

 

[Potomac run]

ZERO Disc is really not a good option at all as this takes the horseshoe function
out of the equation completely...
I believe you have to have at least 2.8 Disc to enable the Horseshoe...
and the Deus was designed to run with around 10 Disc with no loss of
depth or sensitivity whatsoever... according to Andy at bootcamp...
you can pass that nail test easily with the Deus in many different configurations
It's the primary reason I bought it... target separation is the best going!
Careful with the Sensitivity.... it doesn't make for much if any increase in depth
and can actually make it less more often than not, as the higher Sens makes
the machine more sensitive to everything including ground clutter small iron
etc.. if you're after a little more depth just bump Trans up to 3, and maybe
lower Sens.
Soil conditions will almost always dictate depth potential... and you can't change that!

good info thanks

 

[Lodge Scent]

ZERO Disc is really not a good option at all as this takes the horseshoe function
out of the equation completely...

Well I would disagree and say that ZERO disc CAN be a very good option. There are times when I don't give a hoot about the horseshoe function.....Well actually most of the time I don't give a hoot about the horseshoe function. What squirrel said is spot on. In my experience, ZERO disc and full tones will give you the best chance of sniffing out a heavily iron-masked target. Sure it has its downside. It can fatigue your brain and ear if you are swinging the coil in the iron for too long a time. But using Zero disc is an option that serves a purpose, same as the using the horseshoe is an option that serves a purpose. Both options have their places and can help you find targets in different situations.

 

[Gary-B]

ZERO Disc is really not a good option at all as this takes the horseshoe function
out of the equation completely...
I believe you have to have at least 2.8 Disc to enable the Horseshoe...
and the Deus was designed to run with around 10 Disc with no loss of
depth or sensitivity whatsoever... according to Andy at bootcamp...
you can pass that nail test easily with the Deus in many different configurations
It's the primary reason I bought it... target separation is the best going!
Careful with the Sensitivity.... it doesn't make for much if any increase in depth
and can actually make it less more often than not, as the higher Sens makes
the machine more sensitive to everything including ground clutter small iron
etc.. if you're after a little more depth just bump Trans up to 3, and maybe
lower Sens.
Soil conditions will almost always dictate depth potential... and you can't change that!

The horseshoe wll react depending on what target range you have rejected....why are you using the horseshoe anyway, the audio is far more reliable, full tone gives so much more informatrion.
The Deus was not designed to run on discrimination 10, it is a factory pre-set programme as a suggested starting point, the Deus was designed to be adjustable to suit a wide range of search conditions. The Gold Maxx Power was designed to run on 6.8.
Maximum TX gain and lowering the Sensitivity will give you no great depth advantage in most cases, if your conditions allow run your sensitivity a little higher. Sensitivity will give a better over all advantage, a lower discrimination will give a cleaner signal on deep targets.
Deep targets sound different, pay attention to the Audio Response adjustment lower settings will help understand deep target sounds.