Nickels And The DIGGER Coil

[Old Longhair]

Thanks for the suggestion. I think that I will!
I'll also send it to Coiltek, since they have the original on their website.

My original review isn't all wrong about nickels though. It does still need to sound like a coin.
And I've been mulling around another thing in my otherwise inactive brain, and that is, "Why do they respond the way that they do?"
To a point I believe that it has to do with the orientation of the Tx/Rx & the DD configuration, but......I'm thinking that target density has a big part in it too.

Question: Has anyone besides me found gold with their DIGGER coil in C/T Mode?

The reason that I ask is because the piece that I dug didn't entice me with the TID or pitch as much as it did with the quality of it's sound. Again I come back to density. If it sounds good I dig it.

Typically, I've been digging about 200 nickels each year. This year I haven't been out as much, most of my outings have been with the DIGGER, and I'm still on target for my normal totals now that I have this method worked out. With the luck that I'm now having, I almost think that I've passed on nickels with other coils that I'm now finding.

 

[mapper65]

I have not found anything gold with my digger yet.

I'm still stumped myself on the higher ID than normal but luckily it's in the range that a typical silver or copper coin would be ID'd at so it's just another coin dig for me. One of those "same but different" instances.

 

[Mark in S.E. IA]

Longhair, you keep talking about how your doing so good at finding nickels with the Digger coil. my question is,,, what kind of nickels are you finding. Jefferson's, Buff's or V's and also, how deep are most of the nickels you have been finding??

 

[Old Longhair]

Jeffersons and Buffies. Vs are scarce in this neighborhood.
I'd say that average depth is in the 4"-5" range. The substrate makeup here varies considerably, so how deep coins sink or are over grown also varies a lot. One of my shallower finds was a '37 Buff, that was absolutely surrounded with trash. And that's really the thing with this coil....trash sounds like trash, and coins sound like coins. Even though low frequencies aren't supposed to cause the response in low conductors like nickels that we are generally accustomed to, this coil still delivers a coin sound, it just took me a while to establish that it has a consistently predictable accompanying ID and and audio pattern.

 

[Mark in S.E. IA]

thanks Longhair, one of these day's I'm going to have to get me one of those lil coils. I have a lot of places that I could put it to the test.

Jeffersons and Buffies. Vs are scarce in this neighborhood.
I'd say that average depth is in the 4"-5" range. The substrate makeup here varies considerably, so how deep coins sink or are over grown also varies a lot. One of my shallower finds was a '37 Buff, that was absolutely surrounded with trash. And that's really the thing with this coil....trash sounds like trash, and coins sound like coins. Even though low frequencies aren't supposed to cause the response in low conductors like nickels that we are generally accustomed to, this coil still delivers a coin sound, it just took me a while to establish that it has a consistently predictable accompanying ID and and audio pattern.

 

[Old Longhair]

I just hit a nearby site for a little while, and along with a couple dollars in clad I also dug a tiny 10k gold ring.

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Isn't anyone else finding gold with the DIGGER?

 

[atomicscott]

Longhair, how deep on the gold ring? TID same as nickels?

 

[Old Longhair]

The ring was about 4", and it came in below zincolns @ 28-30 on the 705. It was coin sized and a consistent enough ID to be worth digging.
I just posted it because it's another bit of gold found with a coil that isn't supposed to do well on low conductors.

 

[Old Longhair]

Sixteen more nickels in my jar from two short hunts at the same site the little 10k ring came from.
Had a Sacagawea dollar just about plow my ears out too.

 

[foiler]

I just got my "digger" coil from Bart and I've been killing it on nickles. Tried it out in a small park nearby an found 9 nickles in less than 2 hours. This park has been smoked for years. Its one of the oldest in town so everyone with a detector has worked it. Total coin count was 31, (14 pennies, 9 nickles one a '42 silver, 5 dimes, 3 quarters). All clad with the one silver nickle the exception. Just missed on a quarter that was a 65. Thumbs up on this 'digger' coil. I'm grabbing stuff between the junk. I think the reason you might find more nickles is many are discriminating them out. There is probabley a lot in the ground as most are going for the silver and don't care to dig them. If you don't have one of these coils for your X-Terra your missing out.

 

[ryanchappell]

I agree I am intrigued as well. Just worried my highly mineralized might not agree with it. I gb in the teens 90% time, sucks. I got a couple trashy parks I know are hiding things .

I think the lower frequency is preferable in bad soil. Remember how the HF sniper is better at tiny items, like earring backings. That probably makes HF more sensitive to the small iron containing particles that make up the mineralization. My 305 ground balances 5-8 out of 25, so extrapolate that out to the max GB value on the 705. (50? if so then that is 10-16) If your soil is really bad you are probably better off with a single low frequency detector like the 705. I find that my depth is limited with the 6" HF coil to around 2-3" in my bad soil. LF would help a little. (10%?) I think 8" is optimal in bad soil. That said I do think the 6" coil is great to have to go over sites with to find extra goods, after sweeping with the stock coil and determining the depth of targets and the amount of trash. The stock coil (or a LF version) is probably your best bet all around coil in bad soil. My average depth for silver is 2-3 inches, so that is right there at the limit of the 6" coil here. I have found silver in trash near the surface so hence the recommendation to go back over trashy sites with the 6".

 

[Gerryk2]

I am heading out this am and will probably use my digger coil where the local lions club has their haunted woods. It ended last night so i figured i would hunt along the sidewalk from the start line back to the ticket and concession sales area. I will go back later in the week once the inside is broken down. It is a trashy area so i will definitely use my digger inside.

 

[atomicscott]

This really makes me think about the silver/higher conductor targets when using the 18.75 kHz 6" DD coil. Nickels, pulltabs, etc.., lock on solid. I do tend to get some jumpy 36-39-42 ID#s that end up being a copper penny, dime or quarter, whereas with the 7.5 kHz coil, the higher conductors didn't jump as much and were more accurate. I will dig any high tone (36 & up) regardless so it's not really an issue, but it would good to know if there is some pattern to the possibly deeper high conductors. I had other signals with the same jumpy 36-39-42 ID, that would drop down to a low (nickel range 12-15) numbers, then upon circling target I could get a very inconsistent high tone, but more a low tone more consistently. I dismissed these assuming they were trash, due to the wide range of jumpy tones/ID#s. I feel some of these may have been good targets, I just need to dig a few of them and see if I can get a consistent repeatable LTR and RTL pattern as you did. You got the wheels turning now, Thanks again Longhair!

 

[BillF]

Ryan, maybe I'm way off base but if you are only getting 2-3" ,bad soil or not, something doesn't seem right.