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Noise Cancel switch Band 1 & Band 2 the least used control used on the Sovereign Elite and GT

Ron from Michigan

Ron from Michigan

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This summer at the Buckeye hunt I used my Elite for the seeded hunts and over the years have done very well.I had a major problem this year with interference from other detectors,which by the fourth hunt I decided to switch metal detectors.I over looked the most obvious solution,a simple switch from band 2 to band 1 it may have helped.At a recent search at an old farm house I ran into minor electrical interference,and again failed to take advantage of the noise cancel switch.One problem with the Sovereign switches and pots are hard to tune while detecting and will require one to stop to make any adjustments.The remote pinpoint switch works very well I installed,just a flick of the toggle switch with one finger while my hand is still on the grip.Maybe a remote switch should be installed for the noise cancel switch.The remote switch would be a reminder that any interference may be improved with a flip of the switch.Especially in the mid range a switch back and fourth between the two bands may have possibilities to ID targets better.Example Zinc penny Band 1 1.76 volts Band 2 1.765-1.77 and the difference increases in the lower range newer nickle Band 1 1.48 volts Band 2 1.51 volts.This may be an area that hasn't been taken the full advantage of with the Sovereign.HH Ron
 
I use my band switch on the GT a little bit and have my opinions of it from my experience with it. I feel the band 2 is running the same as any of the older Sovereigns which mine is set at most all the time. Now when I run into some electrical interference or from a detector near by is when I switch to the band 1 until I can be able to switch back to band 2. I like the band 2 myself as the meter will ID like I am used to with all my Sovereigns as band 1 the nickles don't read correctly and I feel it doesn't work as well for me anyway. My opinion is that band 2 is where a person is to run the GT and if you get interference from another detector or electrical is where band 1 works for me. The times I have used it and compared signals I like the band 2 better than band 1 for signals and ID, but that is me I guess.

Rick
 
On my Gt Nickels give the most erratic numbers of just about anything. I have them give numbers from 144 to 148 with most of them at 146 in Band 1. Yesterday i was in a city park that had a little bit of EMI so went to the Noise Cancel. Nickels still were all over the place. I dug quite a few of them and also got my share of Popatop tabs.
 
George,your interference didn't improve any by switching bands?Most older nickles for me come in with a less bounce,but newer nickles have more of a bounce.My tone pot could be a touch higher to help with the nickles.I have notice in good ground the nickles come in better with not as much bounce.
 
I have used my sov gt in seeded hunts and have had major problems especially with hunters using the 30 30 machines. I have switched between 1 & 2 with no help. I just purchase a Tesoro Vaq for seeded hunts.
 
Ron When I switched bands in that Park the EMI went away. I did the entire hunt in Noise Cancel. I have one park that it does not matter what I do the only way to detect a portion of that park is to go to a small coil. I have used the 8 incher with some success but one has to listen real close to hear the targets. I have not been able to see any reason for the amount of EMI that is there. There is another city park in this area that has those very large High Voltage lines that run directly over the park and I have almost no problem when using the 8 inch coil.
 
Nomad,I have a Fisher 1235x for comp hunts also.What I like about the Sovereign when everyone quits it can still added about 5 more coins.It is incredible how 1000 coins can be found in about fifteen minutes and after that most of the hunt is over.
 
Nickles for me are mostly 144-145 with some of the older V around 139-140, but that is rare as most will be in the 144-145 range, I use band 2 and a 180 meter. The war nickles most read 144-145, but have some read as high as 151, but these also have a nickle tone to them which is a little different than the round pull tabs that also read this number. Nickle have a different tone to them or sound different than the pull tabs as you will see from experience. I do dig a few pull tabs too that sound decent and don't want to miss a gold ring or nickle, but over all it is not too many other than it is real dry and the older rusty bottle caps will sound like a nickle too. For me the beaver tails that come off the older round tabs read 140-141, nickles at 144-145 while the round pull tabs been around 147 up. I was detecting a area under where some old bleacher used to be and it was loaded with pull tabs and got the 141 which is the beaver tail but the signal sound like a nickle and deeper sounding than most pull tabs beaver tails and got a real nice old gold ring when dug at 8 inches. I also got quite a few nickles too and dug a few pull tabs, but could tell most of them, but wanted to make sure.
Maybe it is the sound is more rounded on nickle versus pull tabs, but know nickle have there own sound to them.

Rick
 
I use to use a Fischer 1225 x which was my first machine but it died this year. My grandsons would use it when they hunted with me. The Sov GT is a great machine but lately at the hunts there are aa lot of ctx 3030 and other mine labs that really interfere with mine. Like you I was picking up a lot of coins that other people missed by going a little slower. In a seeded hunt everything is about speed and it is frustrating to keep changing switches.
 
I dug a war nickel a few weeks ago that I thought was going to be a clad quarter based on what I heard and the high reading on the 180 meter. After getting it home I thought that I had maybe overlooked another target in the hole as I did not expect such high tones and meter reading on the nickel.

I took some war nickels that I have had for 50+ years and tried them. All of them rang up in the 144-146 range. Took the one that I had dug and it rang up 176 The dug nickel gave much higher tones than the ones that I have had for so many years. They sounded like nickels.
 
Around here in ND and MN I have heard of only 1 nickle that read at 176 and it was a war nickle too. I had a guy send me one a few years back he said read at 176 and I found it hard to believe, so he sent it to me to see what my detectors all showed, read like a zinc penny or IH on all the detectors I had. I ask this question on another forum if anyone else seen this and got several response from others saying it has something to do with the mineralization as it will leach the manganese out of the nickle so it will read higher. One thing that was common was that all these nickles were war nickles.
I dig all my 176-177 as many are zinc pennies and some of the earlier wheat pennies and IH read there too, but myself haven't got a war nickle at that range on the meter, so what ever is causing this must be the type of mineralization in our area.

Rick
 
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