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Oh......the pain

Hightone

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After sitting all winter, when I get back out to start detecting, I notice that after the first hunt for the season, the upper front part of my legs get so sore and the next two days I have to sit and wait for them to get used to getting up and down to retrieve targets. It s**ks to get old.:rant:
 
Yeah! I tell you, this Sport uses some forgotten and unappreciated muscles! :rofl: They sure let a guy know too! I dont have a good answer for you except take an aspirin BEFORE your hunt....then just stay at it for a few months and you will be right back in tip top form!
Mud
 
Repeat after me (five times)---"no pain, no gain"----now---repeat after me (SIX times)---"getting old ain't for sissies"!------Works for me!!:biggrin:
 
mudpuppy said:
I dont have a good answer for you except take an aspirin BEFORE your hunt....
Mud
about 15mg of oxcycodone works pretty good....... pain, what pain?
 
:rofl: I remember my old football coach telling us, "If it hurts, its good for you!".... He was neither right or wrong on this, but its the idea that counts...

I will say, this crazy metal hunting addiction, a guy can be down with a back bad, or elbow, or hips, hardly able to put on their underwear or socks, not wanting to even go to the bathroom, buts its a perfect morning!, ..so a feller drags themselves out and takes it one step at a time, manages to get clothed and out to the car and finds a peaceful place, puts on the phones, and starts in...and you know what? in no time at all all the pain is gone! Damndest thing!:shrug: Sure we are still crippled, but at least the pain is gone!

I suppose pain is a way to let you know you are still alive..a good overall full body ache with no specific pain in any general region lets a guy know he lived through that day I guess....very sad to see 20 and 30 somethings so busted up and crippled they cant peel a carrot! Us old guys are really amazing in the scheme of things! Embrace the pain, the alternative may not be any better!:beers:
Mud
 
Pain is fear leaving the body. :detecting:
 
http://www.als.net/forum/yaf_postst50421_Jock-science-medicinal-alcohol-etc.aspx

[copied from that forum, since otherwise you can't read it without registering first]

Dave J said:
[For those of you who don't know me, here's the background. Developed ALS early 2005, close to a textbook case, Dx that summer, also began self-treatment that summer, almost fully recovered 2006 for several years, gradual decline set in "obviously" by 2011, but still not back to being legally handicapped. Self-treatment was what was then state of the art-- antioxidants, anti-inflammatories, calcium channel inhibition, and mitochondrial support. Still my basic approach since it worked for me, documented in detail elsewhere on this site esp. in the Peony and Aketri's ALS Theories Summaries threads.]

I can still lift 20 pounds (9 kilos) of laundry just fine, do it every week on the way to the laundromat. The problem is that usually for 3 days afterwards I'm weaker and more spastic esp. right leg.

So today my daughter bought an approx. 65 pounds (about 30 kilos) portable air conditioner and I have to get it from the car into the house. She sees me daily having to work at simple stuff like getting out of a chair, so she's taking for granted the old man is over his head on this one. We'll have to ask the next door neighbor for help, right?

* * * * * * *

Well, I ain't no jock, but the quest to survive ALS has given me a keen appreciation for jock science, as well as for aspects of neuromuscular medicine that even jocks don't know much about much less "drug-company-induced" neurologists. So I tell my daughter that I will attempt the feat, but ain't gonna kill myself trying, I'm too old to feel ashamed to ask the next door neighbor for help on a deal like this if necessary. He's sturdy young fellow, being asked to help would bolster his ego.

A cup of strong coffee, with sugar (a substance from which I normally abstain), a 24 ounce can of Steel Reserve (8.1% alcohol rotten barley juice), and about an ounce of very salty Oscar Mayer "Real Bacon Bits" to suppress overactive vagus nerve reflexes so I can actually get the coffee & brewsky down without having to spend the next hour in the bathroom trying to get the swallower to work again. (Don't know whether or not the overactive vagus reflex which is esophageal spasm and constellation of other reflexes is related to the ALS or not; also don't know why "bacon bits" suppress the overactive vagus nerve reflex other than the recent accidental discovery that they actually do so. Think it may have to do with the taste of the salt?)

While I was at it, also put down some celery seed extract and boswellia extract, things I have on hand for special circumstances but don't take routinely.

About 40 minutes later, everything has kicked in, I go out to the car and unload the monster and get it into the house without any particular difficulty. Did use a lightweight hand truck, but I occasionally do that even with 20 pounds of laundry. In the house, after opening the box I lifted monster straight out the top, no problemo. Ten years ago I could have done it all about the same but without need for any prior preparation.

Here I am several hours later, feeling like I won't be any the worse the wear tomorrow morning other than a little soreness, which I can blame on having done the laundry earlier today.

* * * * * * * * *

Well, that's the anecdotal information. In the industrial-pharmaceutical "evidence-based" buzzword con game world, information worse than worthless. It advances no careers, it makes no profit for the right people. Despicable stuff.

Anyone who wants to research the neurological science behind alcohol and caffeine and sugar and anti-inflammatories doesn't have to go any farther than the posts on this very website, although of course the whole Internet is available. If you want to do a one-person non-clinical trial of coffee and/or sugar and/or alcohol, all that stuff is available at the grocery store, or even closer in most modern cities.

Will it cure ALS? very probably not. Will it make ALS easier to live with? Only you can answer that, for you personally. Candy is dandy, caffeine is quick and liquor is quicker, this doesn't take a 6 month trial, doesn't take a doctor's prescription, and is very unlikely to have any side effects that you don't already know about. And in any case ain't likely to kill you provided that you don't go driving before you sober up.

--Dave J.

Postscript #1: when we were just about done with the chore, my daughter bent down to pick up a piece of styrofoam packing material and pranged her back. We joked a while about that one!

Postscript #2: I told my daughter that when my own father was in his 60's (me in my late 20's) when it came to moving heavy stuff around, he was stronger than I was. I asked him how that was possible, and his answer was, "Son, it's because I know what the hell I'm doing."
 
OK. Aspirin....Oxycodone...candy....coffee...bacon bits....liquor. If I change the bacon bits to pork rinds, I'll just be a red neck pill popper with a sweet tooth.

Works for me.:clapping:

Thanks guys.
 
Get a young dog and walk his a$$ off. Gives you a way to use up those plastic bags from the grocery store picking up it's crap. It will lick your face in return. If that sounds like too much of a hassle just get out and walk. It will do you a world of good. What "sport" is easier than detecting? If you are sore after a day of detecting you're most likely becoming a couch potato.
 
Yes it Sux to be getting OLD but doing so beats the crap out of the Alternative. I am 74 and hope to live long enough to get to that OLD stage. Went out yesterday and dug 15 quarters, 54 dimes, 4 nickels and over 50 copper lincolns. Made quite a few trips to the trash can to get rid of stuff I did not want Yes I am a little stiff and sore this morning but I will be ready to go do it all over again in a day or two.
 
I know what you mean. I'm 78, have had a prostate surgery, quadruple bypass surgery all when I turned 75. I walk my dog thru the desert every morning and get out and swing a coil every chance I get. Yes my legs get sore and my chest hurts but it doesn't stop me. If I stop I figure I won't start again. Went out this A.M. and hunted an old abandoned house I found. Didn't find squat and my legs were tired after but it feels good. Never give up!
 
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