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old cannonball with black powder

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We have a cannonball that we found during excavation behind our house last year for a room addition.
For historic perspective, our house was built in 1864 here in northern Cincinnati in the village of Glendale by an Irish immigrant named Charles Lundy (he came here by way of Canada). The house fronts on part of the route of Morgan's Raid in 1863. This small village also was a stop on the Underground Railroad and is about midway on the north-south route between two early Ohio River Valley frontier forts: Fort Washington on the Ohio River and Fort Hamilton on the Great Miami River.
There also are indian mounds in this area and the village is located on a ridge above the Mill Creek Valley.
The excavators uncovered a large and sturdily-built brick cistern and also what must have been a pit for trash, or possibly the outhouse. The pit area was full of old bottles and china and irontstone dishes - mostly broken - a couple of porcelain doll's heads similar to those from the Civil War era, and this cannonball.
It was very rusty and we turned it over to a local military historian who took it to a restorer in Perrysville KY to have it cleaned up and disarmed after he found traces of black powder in it.
The cannonball is iron. About 5" in diameter, about 16" in circumferance. Weighs about 15.5 lbs. It shows a trace of a circumferential seam, probably from casting. One opening appears to have the shadow or remnant of a collar, about a half-inch wide around it. The ball also appears to have suffered damage at some time that left a small, rough flattened portion on one side (handy now since it keeps it from rolling off its display spot!) A lot of rust, corrosion and mud was removed during the restoration.
There are two openings (apparently unthreaded although it's hard to tell) created by a 1" diameter hole that runs the complete 5" through the ball in a roughly straight line. This channel was filled with black powder so the holes must have been plugged. The "powder"
 
This may have been a "bar Shot" but I dought it. This shell likely had 2 fuses. They would have been held in by a wooden plugs. As a rule "bar or Chain Shot" did not hold powder, they were used to take out rigging and masts.
Just my thoughts on this.
Dean
 
The series "Civil War" in on PBS here in Lancaster PA tonight, and they just talked about using chains on the balls in the field, but said it was risky on land because the chain could get caught on something and whip the ball back... very interesting!!
 
It does not remind me of any ordinance from the CW. Most CW era "two hole" shells were Confederate, and one hole would come in from the side; thus the name "side loader." There would have been lead balls (case shot) inside. Also, I'm curious how the nitro was removed from the powder. The powder you show looks modern, not from the 1800's. Water will not neutralize black powder. In fact, it will still burn once it becomes dry again. Black powder consists of charcoal (that's why it's black), sulfur and salt peter. It is emulsified in water, then upon drying the liquid becomes a solid. It is then refined into grades: 1-F (primer powder), 2-F (pistol powder), 3-F (rifle powder) and 4-F (cannon powder). It is as black as coal. Shells/cannonball's with no threads in the fuse hole would have used a wooden drive in fuse adapter, as Dean mentioned. But a second hole would have only been necessary to install case shot. Maybe it is an 1812 era shot shell, so I would contact Jack Melton via the email address given in a prior post. His expertise is artillery. Interesting find, keep us posted. Good hunting, David @ Dixie
 
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