Very familiar with Tesoro's as lost count of the models I have used over the years.. To a trained ear regular pinpoint had audio variances gold ring versus pulltab...to those experienced folks who have used both does the VCO kill these variances as the new tone version of the Golden U-max interests me but from using other manufacturers units with VCO imagine it has and even one experienced field tested wished they gave him a choice of either with a toggle. Any info appreciated..
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Old Pinpoint vs. new VCO pinpoint..
- Thread starter Dan-Pa.
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If I understand your question, you are asking if there is more additional target information in the all metal pinpoint compared to the VCO "voltage controlled oscillator" and don't ask me what that means because I have only the fuzziest idea.
I personally think the scream of the VCO has no information in it other than target center. But you have to realize "I Hate Change" and think the only decent use of VCO is in the search mode of the Sandshark PI.
In the all metal pinpoint I can judge target size. I can't do that in VCO, "maybe others can" but I can't.
As far as pinpointing it's self, I far prefer the all metal pinpoint that has detuning to reduce target size. VCO is usable to me but not enjoyable.
That's my two cents and it may be completely out of step with the rest of the world. If so I think you will hear about it from other responders.
I personally think the scream of the VCO has no information in it other than target center. But you have to realize "I Hate Change" and think the only decent use of VCO is in the search mode of the Sandshark PI.
In the all metal pinpoint I can judge target size. I can't do that in VCO, "maybe others can" but I can't.
As far as pinpointing it's self, I far prefer the all metal pinpoint that has detuning to reduce target size. VCO is usable to me but not enjoyable.
That's my two cents and it may be completely out of step with the rest of the world. If so I think you will hear about it from other responders.
Bleaver thanks for the input....indeed VCO is a valuable tool for accurate pinpoint but somewhere along the way you lose info relative size and particularily weight as just weigh a pulltab and gold ring and you will understand why a gold ring holds a tone longer..can't wait for Monte's aspect on this one..For you fellows that don't have a prayer what we are talking about it takes time in the field and experience that don't come overnight...
Not sure about the Golden Umax but I will throw my 2 cents in Dan.
All I know is on any other detector I have used that has VCO pinpoint
there sure isn't a lot to listen to. Now if I am going out in a sports field
looking for gold jewelry I have my Golden Sabre II with me. I know it's
language and it tells me plenty. I can pretty much tell you when I hear
gold jewelry and I have dug plenty over the years to back up that statement.
No meter required just paying attention to the sound. Been a jewelry hunter,
and finder, on sports fields since 1989. Every now and then I think about
getting a Golden Umax but I always end up thinking it just couldn't be better,
at least for me, than the Golden Sabre II with the standard 8" coil. Wish I could
tell you about the Golden Umax but I have never used one. As you well know
the audio variances are definitely there on the GSII and Pantera. Not so sure
about the Golden Umax. Will need someones personal observation to sort that
one out. Hope someone will tell you what you want to know as I am sure what
I have said you have known for many years. Good hunting to you ! Gene
All I know is on any other detector I have used that has VCO pinpoint
there sure isn't a lot to listen to. Now if I am going out in a sports field
looking for gold jewelry I have my Golden Sabre II with me. I know it's
language and it tells me plenty. I can pretty much tell you when I hear
gold jewelry and I have dug plenty over the years to back up that statement.
No meter required just paying attention to the sound. Been a jewelry hunter,
and finder, on sports fields since 1989. Every now and then I think about
getting a Golden Umax but I always end up thinking it just couldn't be better,
at least for me, than the Golden Sabre II with the standard 8" coil. Wish I could
tell you about the Golden Umax but I have never used one. As you well know
the audio variances are definitely there on the GSII and Pantera. Not so sure
about the Golden Umax. Will need someones personal observation to sort that
one out. Hope someone will tell you what you want to know as I am sure what
I have said you have known for many years. Good hunting to you ! Gene
Gene called it GS 11 or for that matter any Tesoro beats all with its liking for gold jewelry especially the small stuff other units won't touch. VCO indeed a good pinpointing aid but doesn't have the audio variances of your GS 11 or previous Tesoro notch units...unfortunately.....and the experienced tester was right on with a toggle for either at operators discretion...
Revier will send you a PM with my thoughts on audio variances and their use of telling junk from gold rings...at least cutting down the odds as only true way to tell 100 percent is a shovel. Right now tied up with honeydo's......
Revier will send you a PM with my thoughts on audio variances and their use of telling junk from gold rings...at least cutting down the odds as only true way to tell 100 percent is a shovel. Right now tied up with honeydo's......
BarberBill
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At one time, I thought the VCO pinpoint was great, especially for finding the target's center and that's still the case. However, I would generally prefer a single tone pinpoint as it definitely is more useful for sizing a target. In either case I haven't developed the ear for recognizing possible targets in that mode as I haven't used it enough. However, I've gotten pretty good with thumbing the disc knob and recognizing likely targets in that way thru subtle variations in the tone so I can see where that would work in the pinpoint mode with practice.
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