I was able to purchase a pioneer ex about a year ago for twenty dollars and two pocket knives.Well all of my sons and I have used it pretty regularly and for the money , I think they are about $100 new, you can't beat them.I recently purchased a delta 4000 and love it but took the old pioneer out one morning after work and dug 2.84 in clad in about 40 mins. Just kinda singing the praises of the ex.