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platinum ring numbers

unearth

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Hello All-
I'm sure this has been on the forum before, but I couldn't find any chart about this. Do platinum rings fall into the same numbers, more or less, as gold, nickels, foil, pull tabs and pop tops?? If there is a chart on this forum somewhere please direct me to it.
Thanks,
Gary
 
Just like gold, it depends on the size. The bigger the object (of any metal composition), the higher the TID, since size plays into it. But all in all, platinum ..... size-per-size, is a bit lower than gold. So for example a perfect round men's band of 7 grams platinum, will read a tad less than the same exact size men's 7 gram gold band. At least that's what I think. I haven't found enough platinum to know for sure. I do know this though: those that have found the super teensy platinum women's thin solitaire type rings, have said they register super low foil .......... almost to the point where you could miss them if you weren't careful.
 
Tom-
Thanks for the quick reply. I thought platinum was around the same numbers, but, since I've never found any, I wasn't sure.
Just a note...I changed my pattern on my e-trac to discriminate out a set of numbers to avoid as many pull tabs, pop tops as possible and still retain some gold numbers.
I discriminated out Fe 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, thru Co 15, 16, 17, 18, 19. That little block of numbers being discriminated out really kept the pull tabs and pop tops down in the amount I dug. It was good for the knees and back also.
Side question...where are you located? I'm in So. Cal.
Gary
 
Gary, you can certainly play with TID #'s and try to nix out the #'s that are commonly recurring junk #'s, while keeping as many gold ring #s in as possible. This might work for places with consistent recuring junk items, like round tags, square tabs, and small foil. But once you enter a place where can shrapnel and larger foil wads are present, then "ring enhancement programs" tend to go out the window, since can slaw can be "all over the spectrum". Turfed parks though normally don't have a lot of can slaw, and foil wads are usually small (and not the fist-sized wads encounted in other type places). So ring-enhancement programs do help in some turfed parks. Rest assured though: you will still dig junk, and you will miss various types/shapes/sizes of gold. If you're in So. CA, and really want to up your gold jewelry finds, do this: Instead of working turfed parks with ring-enhancement programs, simply go to the beach! You've got some world class beaches within your So. CA reach :) And especially if you learn the in's and out's of the wet sand movement/erosion patterns, to learn when the wet sand will be good.

I'm in the Monterey Bay/Salinas area, about 1 hr. south of San Jose.
 
unearth said:
Hello All-
I'm sure this has been on the forum before, but I couldn't find any chart about this. Do platinum rings fall into the same numbers, more or less, as gold, nickels, foil, pull tabs and pop tops?? If there is a chart on this forum somewhere please direct me to it.
Thanks,
Gary

on this forum the link to the id numbers is by ray mo and is the second entry from the top hope that helps
 
A guy in the club I belong ,several weeks ago found a medium size man's platinum ring. He said it read 13 on his XLT. Which would relate to my omega 8000 and Delta 4000 as 53. Which is right in the middle of the foil range.......Jack
 
Tom-
Yes, I agree. I need to learn to read the beaches better. Is there a post on this forum that may have some helpful hints?
I haven't heard of anyone, at least anyone I know, down this way doing well at the beaches yet, but there are a lot of hunters around. I've been to the beach 4 or 5 times this year and have talked to other hunters, and none of them showed me any gold items. All said they didn't find any gold. Do I believe them?? Maybe. When I found that small gold ring, 1.5 grams, at the beach 2 weekends ago, I showed it off, to other hunters, like it was a million bucks!! It was the first gold of any kind I have found in over 10 months of hunting.
It seems that the parks I go to around where I live are full of pop tops of one sort or another. So "ring enhancement" seems like a reasonable way to go in the parks around where I live. As you said in a previous post, pick your poison. My interpretation.
But I will revert to my non "ring enhancement" program, with the e-trac and wot coil, when at the beach or use my excal.
Thank for keeping this thread going. It is really helpful to me and I hope others.
Gary
 
Sugar-
Thanks for the info. I will have to study the pages, but I didn't see a chart with numbers yet.
Gary
 
Well then, it would depend on what you mean by "medium". And bear in mind, you must go by weight, not appearance to evaluate the size. I don't know if you know what I mean, but have you ever noticed that some men's gold bands look large, but when you hold them, they don't feel very heavy. And others, with the exact same girth/width, just "feel" heavier. This is because if you look at them on their side, one is thicker (by as much as 2x!) than another, yet just as wide. Each look just the same to the naked eye, while being worn on a man's hand.

The same is true for a platinum ring a person is looking at. Words like "medium" then, are all relative. The real question is, how much did it weigh, and what would the TID have been for an identical weight yellow gold ring?
 
Gary, an aweful lot of the hunters you'll probably run into on So. CA beaches, are dry sand hunters. And dry sand has little rhyme or reason (besides the obvious "towel line", etc....) Not very many have mastered the beach erosion know-how. And yes, dry sand hunters will not have as high of a ratio of target counts, than those who have mastered reading when/where to do erosion hunting. I know a guy down there in So. CA, for instance, who has had days of up to 12 or 13 gold rings in a day, or 25 in a week, etc... during the major weather events. He'd look at your little gold ring and say "so what?". So yes, some hunters you might see on the beach are just sand-box caliber hunters.

There may be weeks (or even months) that go by for wet-sand erosion hunting, where you just stay at home without even going out (unless you want to hunt dry sand) because conditions don't merit it. That's the downside of waiting for erosion, is it's fickle, and infrequent. There are ways to watch the on-line buoys, weather, and marine reports to know when erosion is likely. And once you've ever been in mother nature's "sweet pocket", where you dig 300 targets in an area no bigger than your living room, trust me: you'll never go back to dry sand hunting again! And a bonus is that when those conditions occur, there is no light stuff at all. No tabs, foil, etc... All washed out to sea, in a natural riffle board effect, leaving only the heavier items on the wet. Ie.: coins, keys, sinkers, jewelry, etc... Those super conditions (where there's so many targets you can't dig fast enough) are rare, but they do happen after big storms. Stories of 10 to 15 gold rings in a day have occured, and coin counts so staggering, that the only reason a guy quits for the day, is not because he's finished his zone, but that the tide chases him back out, batteries go dead, or he drops from exhaustion! I've seen sickeningly thick days/spots like that, but only once every 5 yrs. or so.

I'm sure there's articles, books, and threads that you can find, about what marine conditions to watch for. And I will add that you have to take into account that they might be specific to certain geographic locales. For example, what weather/surf conditions that hunters in Galveston (gulf of mexico) looks for, will be different than conditions that a NY beach hunter (atlantic seaboard) looks for. And in CA, a central CA (where I'm at) hunter will look for different ingredients than you (southern CA) will look for, since you're facing south, and we're facing predominantly (with some exceptions) northwest. Each beach "acclimates" to its own set of norms.

But in short, you in So. CA would be watching for S to SW swells, above normal (whatever annual average "normal" is for your area), that occur during high tides, and preferably with on-shore or cross-shore winds. That's a very simplified explanation though, as it can get very indepth.

If you log on to the CA forum and ask around, I wrote and article that is in the archives there somewhere. That 2 part article is central CA specific, but with some adjustments, you can tailor it for So. CA. I'll have to PM you the address though, as it's not allowed to post links here.
 
Hi I recently was lucky enough to dig a nice big man's 10.6 gram platinum wedding band. It read 12-15 on my E-Trac which is always,always a pulltab. I only dug it because it was in the outfield of a softball field and I just dug a 12-10 in a nearby soccer field which turned out to be a very very tiny sterling silver earring. I was expecting a half a pulltab on that one also.It just goes to show you that you have to use some psychology and site reading and not just sounds and numbers. I really never expected to find platinum on land only in the water. That was my first platinum piece in about 10 years of detecting. I am digging much more trash than ever before, but consequently I am finding a lot of jewelry. It really can't be avoided.
 
Hey Tom: You are 100% correct. I just saw it on the finds board. Did not have my jeweler's scales with me. Just a guess.....Jack
 
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