Quattro.. still not sure...

[dirtdigger]

I started a new thread as now I am not sure or not. I'm not sure if a Quattro is in my future or not, I gotten some emails telling me that they are not land machines, and I read the "frustration" threads below....

I just got Andy S's. book today, and just read half of it. How bad could one of these really be? I took my explorer xs out tonight and actually found some coins!! The reason why I was dumping the XS for a Quattro is because of all the noise (tones) coming at me... my old XLT & DFX had a single tone, for a single type of coin... if I chose to dig it great.. if not great as well. Tonight I did dig 5 or so pull tabs, along with about $4.00 in change (for 1/2 hour at my local park)

This "nulling" you guys write about.. I think I get that with the XS.. right? it seemed like at times it went dead silent, and I'd swing my digger near it to make sure it was still running right, or drop a coin on the ground and go over it.. is this quietness what you are all talking about?

thanks in advance..

DD..

 

[Rick(ND)]

The Quattro is about the same as the Explorer, but not as many adjustments to do. You will still have the nulling depending on where your disc is set, if it is completely open then you will hear everything. If you notch out iron only it will null on the iron, but hear everything else. There will still be all the different tones with the Quattro, but you wont be able to adjust the tone like you can with the Explorer. The Quattro you can switch modes from one to the other faster than the Explorer can. I find the Quattro has a slower recovery speed and only can switch to the high trash density to speed it up a little more, but the Explorer you have more adjustments to adjust it to a faster recovery. This is good to on the Quattro as it will lock on better on the deeper target, but with this some of your trash next to a good target will sound good too unless the threshold can reset itself before it see the trash item. Both are excellent detectors, but takes some time to use them and understand them as you see some of the finds being found that are posted on these forums by those that have learned them. I feel if you don't like the Explorer for all the tones and nulling you wont care for the Quattro either. I think I would put some more time in with the Explorer and learn it better, if you don't like the tones so much you can make a disc pattern and run the constant tones, then when you get a signal you can try to ID it on the smart screen or digital and decide if you want to dig or not. This you cant do with the Quattro. To me and most we like the different tones as it will tell us a lot about a target, but for some they may like the single tones.
Like I say they are both great detectors, but you have to learn what they are telling you with the tones and how they respond.

 

[beachguy777]

I agree with Rick's post here. I got frustrated when I first got my Quatro because of all the different tones, but once you get used to what theyre telling you, they give you a lot of information on whether to dig or not. I'd read and re-read Andy's book and put together a test garden and use it with your Explorer. To me, the Quatro wasn't that bad of a learning curve if you're willing to really work at it for a reasonable ammount of time. I pretty much had it down after a couple of weeks of intense practice and study, but really, you can just pull it out of the box, turn it on, hit coin mode and go for it. It's set up very intuitivly, I think. Rick's right on the nulling, it only nulls on the discriminated stuff. As far as depth and finding coins on land or shore, I think it's probably hard to beat. It'll go deep and grab those coins.

 

[ScottR.]

If you already have a explorer I dont think you are going to find the quattro a better
machine. The first explorer still has an edge on the Quattro in land hunting situations.
I have herd alot of people say that its great on the beach and I belive this is true.
and while I think its a great detector I dont think I would switch from an explorer to a
quattro for land hunting. Mostly because of the slower reset speed on the quattro.
I had an explorer and I sold it and eventualy purchased a quattro. the quattro is easyer to set up and use but it means there is limitations to. I would keep the explorer and get
a different type of machine for a back up unit.

 

[Sanddigger]

I had a Radioshack
White's QXT Pro and my third upgrade was a Quattro. Is it the cost?

The only way I believe to get the hang of it is trial and error. Dig everything and concentrate on sounds and numbers. I think it's a great beach, sand machine. I don't hunt on land though.

GOOD LUCK.

 

[dirtdigger]

I bought a used one.. anyone out there have a Quattro (due here next week) and an Explorer XS ? My XS has the X1 mounted on it, and I want to move it to the Quattro, I see on SunRay's site that they don't reccomend this, but I've heard some folks have done this mod themselves..

Any one willing to see how their XS shaft fits into their Quattro and send me a photo?

regards...DD

 

[Rick(ND)]

Too bad this wasn't about a month or 2 ago as there was a X1 probe on the Quattro shaft for sale on one of the classified for $120 I believe it was as I know it was cheap for the X1 probe.
Now if you have a XS II then the probe and shaft is the same other than the color of the shaft as I used my XS II shaft on my Quattro when I had it. Now if you have a XS than the shaft is different so the XS shaft is not angled at the end where it goes into the control housing so it will not fit correctly.
Taking the probe apart and remounting it on the Quattro shaft may not be a good idea or one that is easy to do, but I have heard of some that are good with tools and when they got a XS II they were able to carefully cut the shaft at a angle without cutting the cable to use their XS shaft on their XS II.
The easiest way I feel would be to order a new X1 probe and sell the one for your XS, or keep the XS and the X1 probe until you see if you will like the Quattro. You could even put a want to buy ad for a X1 probe for the Quattro or the XS II and see if someone has one they want to sell. I think in the last week I seen one for sale on one of the classified.
Good luck and you will have to let us know what you think of the Quattro being you have used the XS. The Quattro is good and feel it has some updates the Explorer may not have, but with the tones not adjustable for us with high pitched hearing loss (seem like most older people have a high tone hearing loss) it was hard to hear the tones plus the slow recovery makes the Explorer a better choice for many. You will have to let us know what you think being you have used the Explorer.

Rick