I have watched many Deus youtube videos of the Deus in action, but not too many where the detector is used in parks with tons of modern trash. My question: How does the Deus handle pull tabs, square tabs, can slaw, screw tops, and bottle caps. The reason I ask? I hunt parks, fairgrounds, and schools. These places will test the patience and stamina of any detectorist I currently know. I have tried just about every detector made and found the Etrac to work the best in these spots. You have to go slow, but if that is what it takes, so be it. I know the Deus is fast, but I am leary of it's accuracy in these types of places. I am in no way trying to start an argument, but the Deus is the last "high end" detector that I have not tried.
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Question for Dedicated Deus Coin Hunters
- Thread starter RLOH
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Southwind
Well-known member
Yes I hunt our city park with both the E-Trac and the Deus. In my opinion the E-Trac does make finding the really deep coins, that are not masked by iron, easier to identify than the Deus. Key work being Identify. The Deus can get the same depth but the target ID is not as accurate. On the really deep one you generally don't even get numbers. You will get a good sound though. I like using Full Tones so all I have to do is listen for that high peep and you know its something conductive. It may not be a coin, but if it says deep and its a high peep chances are good its worth recovering.
I have taken my Deus back over the places I hunted to death with my E-Trac and found a fair amount of coins. The Deus is a killer in heavy iron that masks conductive targets for most other detector, plus once you swing a Deus it is very hard to go back to and other detector. Like swing a feather.
I have taken my Deus back over the places I hunted to death with my E-Trac and found a fair amount of coins. The Deus is a killer in heavy iron that masks conductive targets for most other detector, plus once you swing a Deus it is very hard to go back to and other detector. Like swing a feather.
You will want to find a high trash type program to put into your Deus. The stock 1 program will frustrate you in that type of trash. You will want things like higher reactivity, silencer set higher, and maybe some notch discrimination. Sensitivity won't be so important. So I would get one of those (Andy has one in his book) and it helps if you understand what the settings are and why they were chosen, but you don't strictly have to at least to start out, and add it into your Deus and run with that. The stock 1 program with defaults will get fooled by rusted bottle caps (silencer setting helps with that). A lot of detectors will, but the settings on the Deus will help you.
The ID as stated doesn't go as deep as the Minelab. But the ability to pick goodies out of heavy iron/trash is far better, and you get audio as deep. I hunt by audio so that's fine by me.
The ID as stated doesn't go as deep as the Minelab. But the ability to pick goodies out of heavy iron/trash is far better, and you get audio as deep. I hunt by audio so that's fine by me.
beepsilver
Member
One trick you'll definitely want in your bag is how to distinguish bottlecaps from coins...because some of those bottlecaps sound very very good, and much like a silver quarter. One way to do this is to setup two identical programs for your modern trashy park--one program will use 4Khz and the other 12Khz...make sure they're side-by-side in your program slots so you can easily flip back and forth. All the other settings for these programs are up to you and should vary depending on the type of trashy park....ask yourself, is there so much trash that I need reactivity 3, or can I get away with 2? R2 will get you deeper, but R3 or R4 will get you better separation--if the Deus sounds like a machine gun when you swing it, then you need R3 or R4...sacrificing a little depth as you increment upward--be mindful that when you change reactivity, the silencer changes automatically, so check that when you make changes...-1 is wide open, which is what I like. Further, is the iron level such that I can set disc all the way to 0 or do I need to cut out SOME of the chatter? Is there so much trash that I must use some notching, or am I willing to decipher those extremely low tones above iron and those really high tones beyond the coin range? Anyway, so you've got your two programs installed, now find a bottlecap and swing over it using your 12Khz program and note both the tone and the VDI. Now flip over to the 4khz program and do the same....
You'll notice that when sweeping over the bottlecap in 4Khz, the tone and VDI will increase....which is the opposite of what a coin will do. A coin's VDI and tone will decrease when going from 12Khz to 4Khz. I learned this trick early on and I've never found a coin in the hole when the VDI/tone increased when going from 12Khz to 4Khz--I've saved hours and hours of digging. Early on I didn't trust this method and consequently dug a lot of bottlecaps--once in a while I still do.
BE CAREFUL! In trashy parks you'll discover a lot of coins are partially masked by trash, so if you get even a hint that the VDI/tone decreased when going from 12Khz to 4Khz, then dig it. Sometimes the separation between coin(s) and trash is wide enough to make it an easy decision; other times, you'll find that you can only get the target's VDI/tone to decrease when sweeping at only a particular angle....that's when you dig and then boast about how brilliant you were to dig that seated dime. Good luck!
You'll notice that when sweeping over the bottlecap in 4Khz, the tone and VDI will increase....which is the opposite of what a coin will do. A coin's VDI and tone will decrease when going from 12Khz to 4Khz. I learned this trick early on and I've never found a coin in the hole when the VDI/tone increased when going from 12Khz to 4Khz--I've saved hours and hours of digging. Early on I didn't trust this method and consequently dug a lot of bottlecaps--once in a while I still do.
BE CAREFUL! In trashy parks you'll discover a lot of coins are partially masked by trash, so if you get even a hint that the VDI/tone decreased when going from 12Khz to 4Khz, then dig it. Sometimes the separation between coin(s) and trash is wide enough to make it an easy decision; other times, you'll find that you can only get the target's VDI/tone to decrease when sweeping at only a particular angle....that's when you dig and then boast about how brilliant you were to dig that seated dime. Good luck!
