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Re: T2 Classic depth

I might have asked this before but got myself all confused again reading about high end detectors and if the t2 can compete. You guys with a t2 classic what is the deepest coin you have dug with the stock 11" coil? The reason i ask is because i spent three days for a total of about 12 hours and not one old coin. The location was an old school about 120 years old. I believe i am the only one to ever detect it. My machine will air test a quarter at 14". Hope this all made sense. Thank you for any thoughts.
 
If you are air testing with old coins at that distance although air testing does not mean alot,then the detector is working fine,if nothing is old or at depth at that location you wont find it will you !!! thats the same with any permission,if nothing is old or at greater depths then no detector on the planet will find it,its just not in the ground.
 
I bout bet your not the first to hunt that school. Old schools are hammered to death. With a T2 in order to get deep coins you need to use low disc and high sensitivity and a brisk sweep speed. I have a 10" dime in my test bed and the T2 hits it. This is in highly mineralized Georgia Red Clay 3-4 bar dirt.
 
My deepest old coin found with a T2 was 9"...…….. Stock coil...…...original Green colored T2

A barber Quarter..... Faint signal …… Mostly in my dirt...….around 6"...…. some a little deeper.

I did not particularly find the T2 to be a depth demon. I found it to be a fast responding general purpose detector that worked as it should.

Where it really shined is with the 5" coil...…
 
You want more depth with a T2---try the T2+ in boost mode. Very good, even with the 5" coil.
 
12"-14" in the dry sand at the ocean hunting in all metal......detector is plenty deep and super sensitive.....
 
Thank all of you for your thoughts. Could be that I'm just not into this hobby as much as i thought. Been detecting on and off for 35 years you guys have confirmed my equiment is descent could be i dont have the patience needed anymore. Really do enjoy readind the forums though.
 
Ok, took the t2 out again today for about 4 hours. Used the 5" coil today. Tried differnt frequencys, settings, all metal and discrimination.... Nothing!!! A few dozen pull tabs and a bunch of trash. Can i possibly have the worlds worst luck? Anyway i learned a little more about the t2.
 
You're getting all that's in the ground that you covered. Set the disc. high enough to knock out some of the trash and you'll be able to cover more ground than spending all that time digging trash.
 
I had the T2 LTD2 for a brief moment in time, it was a good detector. Buddy also had one and did real well detecting one of our hunted to death sites with it (had his best day at the site with the T2 actually!).
 
If the site still holds coins the T2 will find it. Take your time and overlap your search grids Having a good assortment of different sized coils also helps. Remember trashy areas with multiple targets close together - use small coils for better target separation. Relatively clean areas with fewer targets that are spaced farther apart - use larger coils for more depth and to search a large area faster. If the site has been pounded hard, you should try other sites that are often overlooked by other treasure hunters.
 
I only have and use one of the original green T2 machines from 2006/7,could never see the need to upgrade as it runs great as it is,only in the last 6 months or so i have changed from using discrimination mode over to AM mode,and the depth increase is rather noticeable,especially when using a larger than stock size coil on clean pasture sites,on trashy sites forget about using big coils but on clean sites this is when this combination comes alive.

I do use smaller coils for the most part including the 5'',Sharpshooter coil and SEF8x6,the larger coils i use just mainly for deep artifact/hoard hunting once again on deep pasture or clean deep ploughed and rolled site are the SEF 12x10,SEF 15x12 and the big fella the NEL Big 17x15 these are of course more specialist coils and only used on the right ground conditions ie clean and without much trash or iron,and also doing ones homework and checking the sites history,on early medieval sites that the targets are deeper than what a stock coil will reach,then this is the type of situation that a large coil/detector combination running in all AM mode comes into play.Depth is outstanding and the T2 if setup right and in the right conditions still amazes me.It suits my style of detecting on my permissions as alot of our targets can be very deep.

The T2 with a large coil certainly in my mind is the right tool for the job,certainly not a combination that one would use for hunting fine gold chains in a 'tot lot' but on open cleat pasture site then it certainly is the right combination,especially when in AM mode......of course as usual just my thoughts on how i use my T2 on my permissions here in the UK.
 
Metaldetectorguydiggindeep said:
[size=medium]I might have asked this before but got myself all confused again reading about high end detectors and if the t2 can compete.[/size]
The Teknetics T2, any version to include the 'Classic' which is my favorite, used to sell for a much higher dollar amount which, in 'buyer's speak,' made them a "high end" detector. I enjoyed using my T2's, having owned 4 or 5 of them, a good deal where I hunted the most. Those would be older period sites with a lot of nails and other debris, especially iron and rusty tin. I mean dense, good-target masking trash, and the T2's served me quite well using the 5" Double-D search coil.

Personally, I don't care which manufacturer makes coils in the 7X11 to 8X11 DD sizes, I just never cared for them. I have a preference for a rounder-shaped search coil when covering an open, sparse-target site where I might be able to achieve depth-of-detection, and there's something about the looks and feel and balance of most 7X11 to 8X11 elliptical coils that, for various reasons, just do not appeal to me.


Metaldetectorguydiggindeep said:
[size=medium]You guys with a t2 classic what is the deepest coin you have dug with the stock 11" coil?[/size]
In a few locations where I used my T2 w/11" BiAxial coil, I have managed to get a reasonably good hit on some coins in the 7" to perhaps 11" depth range, but it varied based upon the target size and shape, alloy make-up, and other factors. Most coins and coin-sized targets I have found over the past 53½ years have been positioned between surface/sub-surface and about 4" deep. When I do chance on an area with honest, measured-depth coins that are 'deep' they tend to fall in the 5" to 9" depth range. Rarely, very rarely, in over five decades of very avid metal detecting, have I found a coin-sized target deeper than 9". I would best guess that the total number of 10" or grater depth coins I have ever found a coin might number as high as twenty (20) .... might, if I am counting the very honest depth measurements. I can 'air test' to better coil-to-target distances, but I can do this by a brisker wave of a sample target than what can be used as a sweep speed in my very mineralized ground.


Metaldetectorguydiggindeep said:
[size=medium]The reason i ask is because i spent three days for a total of about 12 hours and not one old coin. The location was an old school about 120 years old. I believe i am the only one to ever detect it.[/size]
1st: I have been Relic Hunting ghost towns, homesteads, farm and ranch sites and other older period places since May of '69, and Coin Hunting urban locations going back to March of '65. I do not always find early era coins at every site, but most of the time I do. Most of the older sites I hunt date back to a start of activity between 1845 and 1867, so they can be 173 year old locations, while the bulk of them have history between 130 and 150 years ago.

2nd: While there might be a time or two when I haven't found a coin in 12 hours of hunting, I would guess that 95% or the time, or more, I have recovered one to multiple old coins. One excellent example I can give is my all-time favorite ghost town I named 'Twin Flats' that is located in Utah. Life in that railroad town began in 1869 and it was a very active town through the 1800's, started to dwindle from 1900 to about the mid-1939's then soon died off to oblivion. I hunted 'Twin Flats' a lot, long hours and very often, and was only skunked once. It produced hundreds of coins for me, filling four binders of 2X2 carded specimens plus many that didn't make it into a full binder. My Seated Liberty silver coins out-numbered Barber silvers about 30-35 to 1. Nickels were an average split of 4 Shield for every 5 'V' variety, and the denominations included my oldest silver being an 1836 Capped Bust Half-Dime, my oldest One Cent coins from that town were an 1851 Large Cent and 1857 Flying Eagle, I also recovered almost a half-dozen 2¢ and 3¢ pieces.

Of all those hundreds of coins, no more than 6 of them were deeper than 5", and perhaps no more than 20 were recovered in the 4" to 5" depth range. The bulk of the older coins were located from surface / sub-surface down to the 3" to 4" depth range. Unless there is some deliberate act that can alter the ground surface or disturb the conditions at a site, coins and other naturally-lost artifacts have no reason to be positioned very deep. Erosion can cover targets with material or it can remove some surface material even to the point of exposing an object. Wind, rain and snow can do this, or other things that might effect an area such as runoff, the heavy weight of cattle and horses troding over an area or feeding, perhaps around water troughs, barns, outbuildings, corrals and so forth. The deposition and build-up of leaves from trees and other 'common' contributing factors, as are heavily used travel routes by cattle, walking paths for people or wagon roads.

And even those places do not always have coins positioned deeper than 3"-4". And as for a 120 year old school site that you believe hasn't been hunted before you worked it? Well, I can't tell you how many times over many, many years I have heard people tell me or e-mail me that they felt they were to first to hunt a particular location that had never been hunted before. I shut up and stayed quiet as quite a few times I knew that I had been there, often numerous times, as well as friends or others who had gone before or after us.


Metaldetectorguydiggindeep said:
[size=medium]My machine will air test a quarter at 14". Hope this all made sense. Thank you for any thoughts.[/size]
So obviously my 'thoughts' are going to be a bit biased based upon my use and familiarity of the Tek. T2 series and an ample number of decades working older sites that might have old coin potential. I seldom use 'standard' or larger search coils unless I am well away from all the discarded debris, and in those places I favor a smaller-size search coil most of the time and if it is not too littered then a mid-size search coil might get called into action.

On my T2's I did quite well working the 5" DD coil in and around the iron debris, and I have faith in the T2's capability, given the right search coil, most functional settings, and working a site with a slow and methodical sweep to cover it well.

Monte
 
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