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Salt Water Surf Hunting and the AT PRO

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Tony in FL

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I was hoping this machine would do well in the salt water but it looks like Garrett is making it clear that it is not recommended for this application. However it is recommended for dry beach and freshwater.
 
The AT pro's spec's are the same as the White's M6, but not water proof..........I used The M6 at my local beach and it cleaned up on the loot at my beach's dry sand part of the beach, but did not do well at all in the wet salt sand.
 
According to the engineer who designed the AT it will do quite well in saltwater. Salt after all is a mineral and the AT is set up to cut through mineralization.

Bill
 
Yet according to Garrett's catalog they clearly imply that the AT is not recommended for the surf. Hopefully I am wrong but somehow I don't think their marketing department would miss the mark on a new machine about to hit the market.
 
Excellent. It looks like based on that chart that this machine can do everything better than all the other Garrett machines except for Salt Water Hunting. That is one really versatile machine!
 
Like i said before i don't care .....I don't hunt salt water ..........
 
Max, i figured as much. Nothing on the AT. But if you look at past single freq machines. They don't do well in the wet salt sand. Without naming names. some single freq machines made for water hunting even have a salt switch. They just didnt work well. Great in the fresh but no go in the salt.

Keppy, some of us do care. We do hunt the salt as it's out main type of hunting.
 
It's not a mineral as in the context your putting it in. It's a positive item, (+), just like a target would be, not negative,(-), like ground mineralization. The conductivity of the salt is right above the signal of the ground in the iron range.

Salt after all is a mineral and the AT is set up to cut through mineralization.
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Take a look at the lead time that is needed to print up catalogs. 90 to 120 days at least. May be 6 months. I believe you will find the catalog was printed up, long before the engineer had stated in his video that the AT could be used at the wet salt beach. If the ground balance can go to the salt range, there won't be a problem. We will all know very shortly. :thumbup:
 
Bill, all due respect. But not once in the videos did anyone mention "Wet salt beach". The words "in the surf" was used. But one could go to the great lakes and get surf lol. Time will tell. I want more than any salt hunter for this machine to work. But as both you and i have said. It has to beable to ground balance to salt. A normal ground balance with a DD coil isnt going to cut it. Untill then we will have to make elaborate water proofing mods to machines that can handle it.

I'm hopeing it can GB to salt and still have decent depth.
 
I wasn't glued on every individual word. I thought salt beach was mentioned. I seriously doubt they meant the "Great Lakes" when mentioning the Surf. :shrug:

I am using a single freq., just released detector, on the wet salt beach now. It's GB range is from Ferrite to Salt.
 
Mr.Bill said:
Take a look at the lead time that is needed to print up catalogs. 90 to 120 days at least. May be 6 months. I believe you will find the catalog was printed up, long before the engineer had stated in his video that the AT could be used at the wet salt beach. If the ground balance can go to the salt range, there won't be a problem. We will all know very shortly. :thumbup:
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Most of the other new VLF machines can GB from salt to ferrite and many come with DD coils now a days. That still doesn't help them enough to be a good alternative to the multi-frequency units. If you spend any time at all on the beach you will at the very least want a VLF with auto-tracking so you have some chance but if spend a lot of time at the beach you will want a multi-frequency unit. I'd be as pleased as could be if my AT Pro works well enough to best my multi-frequency unit at the beach but I don't see how that is even remote possible without ground tracking. That was no mistake about the catalog - if Garrett had the slightest intention if they wanted to make this a good enough beach machine to check off that box in the catalog it would have to have ground tracking - they already have that technology on the GTIs it wouldn't have been hard to put it into the AT Pro if they had wanted too. Plus they would have put a salt water search aid like the GTIs have at least in the newbie mode.
 
Mr.Bill said:
Take a look at the lead time that is needed to print up catalogs. 90 to 120 days at least. May be 6 months. I believe you will find the catalog was printed up, long before the engineer had stated in his video that the AT could be used at the wet salt beach. If the ground balance can go to the salt range, there won't be a problem. We will all know very shortly. :thumbup:
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I could see there being some lead time on printed catalogs but I clipped that chart from a PDF download on Garrett's site yesterday. It seems unlikely to me that it is incorrect.
 
Not disagreeing with you, just pointing a few things out. From what I understood they didn't try it on the salt beach until about a week or so ago.
 
Let me fill you in. I live next to the ocean on Cape Cod, MA. Been hunting the salt water & beach's ever since I first picked up a detector many years ago. I have been instrumental helping in designing salt beach detectors for manufactures. I do custom modifications to detectors, including modifying the electronics. I have custom made PI detectors designed for me to be sold here in the US. So my friend, I have a real good idea what it takes to hunt the beach's in your back yard. :)

Just to clear up a thing for you. DD coils are not the coil if choice to use in salt environments All DD coils share a few drawbacks. They act up in the salt environment, generally by falsing, and they have a particular good liking for rusty bottle caps. DD coils are designed for strong ground mineralization as iron enriched soil such as the red clay type found inland, and the bad stuff in the gold fields.

I don't want to continue posting about a detector that has yet to be put on the market so I am going to hold back from any further post to you. I'm going to be a good little Garrett dealer, Finds Sponsor, and wait patiently for my stock order of AT Pro's to arrive. :thumbup:
 
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Yeah due to that fact catalogs and brochures have been know to be in serious error more than once so don't bet your life on those. HAA.

Bill
 
[size=large]Seems a few folks, ( dealers ? ), are trying to snuff out the bad news candle again. theres more than a few people who pre-ordered this machine who were led to believe this machine would be a salt-water machine and now garrett themselves, it would seem , says it's not. It's a good reminder about committing to buying things you haven't seen or have any facts about.
when and if a claim is made for any product the manufacturer gets to fall back to his advertising claims. In this case Garrett says in print, late or not, this machine is NOT RECOMMENDED for surf hunting or treasure diving.
So is everyone to believe the dealers hyping this thing or the company making them? Remember dealers ,your credibilty is now in question not Garrett.. I have no doubt this machine will do everything Garrett says it will. In Print.

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