I'm just curious and I realize there are several factors to take into consideration, but-----Has anyone done any "side by side" in field comparison tests of the Explorer SE w/Lightweight Pro coil coil against Fisher F-75 w/stock coil?---If so, what's the verdict?----The results should prove interesting.------Thanks, Del
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SE Versus F-75
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Chris(SoCenWI)
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Not with the Lightweight Pro coil....
I bought and still have a F-75 to go with the XS I've used for years. I"ve done some side by side testing and have found they are pretty evenly matched at what they can detect. I thought that the F-75 with the faster electronics would be better in trash. Doesn't seem so; looks like the ability to see a coin has more to do with coil geometry- DD vs Concentric- than detection speed.
I also thought the F-75 being a single frequency detector would do better in town around power lines. Nope, places I have to turn down the sens on the XS have to do the same for the F-75.
F-75 without question has better ergonomics and is easier to swing, pinpoints well, great battery life; probably is more sensitive to small objects; never have dug so many .22 short shells and .22 slugs. Downside is that it loves bottle caps and other round iron targets. Basically if you get a really great signal can almost bet it will be a bottle cap. Not as hot on rusty nails as the explorer is.
The reason I keep swinging the Explorer as my main girl is the two dimensional smart screen. If you get a target mixed with trash or deep or all the other conditions that cause a target to ID incorrectly/inconsistantly- which these days is 95% of the time- the F-75 will give you a number or a range of numbers other than what you would expect. But only one number. With the Explorers 2D smart screen coin mixed with iron hits upper screen left. Watching the target icon bounce in 2 directions gives so much more information, and means digging much less trash.
My two cents worth.
I bought and still have a F-75 to go with the XS I've used for years. I"ve done some side by side testing and have found they are pretty evenly matched at what they can detect. I thought that the F-75 with the faster electronics would be better in trash. Doesn't seem so; looks like the ability to see a coin has more to do with coil geometry- DD vs Concentric- than detection speed.
I also thought the F-75 being a single frequency detector would do better in town around power lines. Nope, places I have to turn down the sens on the XS have to do the same for the F-75.
F-75 without question has better ergonomics and is easier to swing, pinpoints well, great battery life; probably is more sensitive to small objects; never have dug so many .22 short shells and .22 slugs. Downside is that it loves bottle caps and other round iron targets. Basically if you get a really great signal can almost bet it will be a bottle cap. Not as hot on rusty nails as the explorer is.
The reason I keep swinging the Explorer as my main girl is the two dimensional smart screen. If you get a target mixed with trash or deep or all the other conditions that cause a target to ID incorrectly/inconsistantly- which these days is 95% of the time- the F-75 will give you a number or a range of numbers other than what you would expect. But only one number. With the Explorers 2D smart screen coin mixed with iron hits upper screen left. Watching the target icon bounce in 2 directions gives so much more information, and means digging much less trash.
My two cents worth.
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Neil
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Hey Chris,
I got an F75 a few months ago but have only used it on beaches so far. Seems like the numbers jump around abit on the bottlecaps Ive been digging(dig to learn). They lock on real good where your hunting, I mean a solid number?
Im pretty impressed with the ID abilitiy of the F75, even at depth. Im still keeping my Explorer though and would like to try that new coil. I use an X12 now mostly on my Explorer now but the stock slimline is a decent coil also.
Neil
I got an F75 a few months ago but have only used it on beaches so far. Seems like the numbers jump around abit on the bottlecaps Ive been digging(dig to learn). They lock on real good where your hunting, I mean a solid number?
Im pretty impressed with the ID abilitiy of the F75, even at depth. Im still keeping my Explorer though and would like to try that new coil. I use an X12 now mostly on my Explorer now but the stock slimline is a decent coil also.
Neil
Chris(SoCenWI)
Well-known member
I asked quite a few questions about bottle caps on the F-75 forum. There were some suggestions like watching the FeO3(?) bar, and a few others. They were useful but just when I though I could tell a bottle cap with some confidence I would get the save results with a coin buried with iron. I've heard other detectors have problems with them as well. Just coming from the explorer where they always hit lower right and never get dug I wasn't expecting this to be a problem.
Most of the sites I'm detecting are pretty iron laden, and this seems to affect the ID.
Chris
Most of the sites I'm detecting are pretty iron laden, and this seems to affect the ID.
Chris
I would echo everything Chris said and add one more. When you get proficient with the SE, you will probably be hunting in all metal or close to it. That way you can hear the high pitched coins in between the dense, low tone, iron trash with the Explorer. The deal killer with the F-75 is that in it's more sensitive, deeper mode (all metal), it only gives one tone, so you can't hunt by tone in all metal
That kind of makes the faster electronics a whole lot less valuable or even useful.
That kind of makes the faster electronics a whole lot less valuable or even useful.
Neil
Well-known member
Checking the ferrous meter could work but Ive already dug tabs( usually low to mid 30s) with the ferrous meter reading fairly high which tells me its picking up some black sand or similiar, so going by that meter could stop you from digging a nice coin because of the ground its in.
I had problems with rusty caps with a minelab advantage and also the Xterra 70 with a DD coil, been told the coil is the culprit too.
I guess nothing beats the explorer or sov for great ID of targets.
Thanks much,
Neil
I had problems with rusty caps with a minelab advantage and also the Xterra 70 with a DD coil, been told the coil is the culprit too.
I guess nothing beats the explorer or sov for great ID of targets.
Thanks much,
Neil