Silver, silver and more silver!

[jim tn]

I don't do pictures of finds, so I realize there is the issue of credibility, but I none the less want to post about todays hunt as much has and is being discussed concerning TID, EMI and tones, to some extent.

I started out this morning on one end of a site that emi has always been an issue. I fired the LTD up and it was in the hot settings from yesterday and immediately emi became a problem. Finally when getting the sen. down to 60 with 0 disc. and in the bp mode the LTD became much more stable. Not perfect, but I could at least hear targets pretty good.

Hunting along the power lines with the 5" coil on I began pretty promptly digging wheat, pre 82 Memorial cents and several clad dimes and quarters. Paying very close attention to vid reading and striving for a precise pinpoint, wheats and Memorial cents were coming in at 69-72 at depths of 4-5." Clad dimes were reading 74-75 and clad quarters at 83-84. The clad were also at about the same depths with one quarter maybe down to 6." The tone with the 60 Sen., however, didn't seem to be quite as sharp. At these settings, I also got a bouncy nickel range hit, vid readings of 28-33, and slightly broken tones, mid to high. This target truned out to be a 43P war nickel at a 7" depth.

After working my way out from the emi plaqued area, I was able to crank the sen. back up to 85 and had FAIRLY stable running. At the higher sen. I dug a 56 Rosie that read a lockon 76 at about 6." A little bit later, I dug a 43D Merc. that bounced a bit from 77-80. It, however, was a true 7" deep. My last good target was a 59D Washington quarter that read 90-92 and was all of 6" deep. With the higher sen. setting, the tones in 3h were much crisper then they were with the 60 sen. setting.

I also checked my coil connection before I began hunting.

What do you all think?

HH jim tn

 

[gmanlight]

No credability issue with you Jim .Nice hunt

 

[dgc]

Well done Jim. Thanks for sharing some data from a hunt with your LTD. I've been using the 5" coil quite a bit but haven't found any silver yet. I was beginning to doubt its ability to detect anything very deep but your data has given me a little more confidence. If you don't mind, would you state your GB number and Fe3O4 reading if you have them? Thanks again.

 

[jim tn]

on this particular site ranges from 60 to 65 as the norm and on occasion up to 70. FEO is .03, also as the norm.

dgc, I don't know about your ground, but in my ground the 5" coil gets good depth. I've dug several coins in the 7-8" depth range and there seems to be more to go.

My wife was reminding me of something we had going on when I was doing this initial post, so I was rushing to finish it and failed to mention one thing about the silver quarter that possibley could be a factor for it's high reading. When I stuck my shovel blade into the ground to dig the quarter it sunk into the ground very easy, like someone had already dug the signal. I remember thinking, someone left a already dug piece of trash in the ground. When I flipped the clod over, it also kind of crumbled like it had already been dug. Anyway, I am pretty sure the ground had been disturbed within the past few months and the quarter actually sounded like it was probably on edge, as well. HH jim tn

 

[jmaryt]

great hunt jim!..,and some valuable insight on how "gain" can affect your hunt!..it would appear that even though your gain was dropped to mitigate emi,the l td
performed well,and surely is capable of better depth at reduced sensitivity!..everything was "diggable"and another way to get around emi!..impressive!

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Looks...err strike that, sounds like you had a good hunt Jim

No credibility issues here either, and good info to know on handling the EMI

HH,
Brian

 

[boxofchocolates]

Good hunt Jim....thanks for the info...I liked the 5" coil but haven't used it in a couple months.....gonna put it on soon.........hh.......Dan

 

[Elton]

Partial quote ..... I don't do pictures of finds, so I realize there is the issue of credibility,


Mr Jim:

Your credibility is un questioned. Your word is like Gold !!

 

[jim tn]

Thanks for the kind remarks on my credibility, guys. Elton, my word is more like copper and zinc. That is the vast majority of what I dig. I did get a 57D Rosie this morning, so I now have a two day silver run going. LOL. It also read high and was a little bouncy, 76-80, but was totally on edge right beside a foundation and was 5" deep. HH everyone, jim tn

 

[jmaryt]

jim!..did you get "clean" audio on the rosie?

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[Furious T]

Great hunt, Jim. I think everyone likes looking at pictures (me included), but just reading about your experiences gives me as much pleasure and a lot more information as I would get from a photo. Well done and keep that silver rolling in.

 

[jim tn]

Thanks Furious T, I'm doing my best to keep the silver rolling in. I got a 36 Washington quarter this morning about 15 feet away from the 59D I dug the other day. I was still at 0 disc., bp mode, but had dropped the sen. down to 65 as I was starting to get some pretty good chatter from some nearby power lines. The quarter was 7" deep and a bit slanted. I find on slightly deeper coins with lower sen. that the tone seems a bit flater sounding, at least to my ears, not as sharp as 85 and higher sen. settings. The vid was pretty steady, though, reading 86-88. I may do some pictures one of these days of some of my finds with the F 75 and F 75 LTD, as these two detectors have been good to me. HH jim tn

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Jim aside from the extra noise, are you really finding that 0 disc in BP mode is helpful?

I try to run 0 disc as often as a site will allow hoping it will help unmask targets, but I question if it is and if in the end, the added noise is potentially making me miss targets due to the oversaturation of sounds. I did find one merc that was and iron to high coin bouncer, but for some odd reason it sounded better then it looked, so I decided to dig it. It was 7" deep on edge.

Often I switch to 7 disc to knock out the small bits of iron (although I'm lasting longer at 0 disc then I used to) and for a quieter ride.

HH,
Brian

 

[jim tn]

Brian, 0 disc. seems to be more helpfull to me then 6 or higher disc. First off, I am used to it after running it so long with the F 75. Secondly, to me the mid tone and high tone seem to be more distinct or sharper then when I go to 6 disc. Of which, I do when emi becomes a problem. But, that could be my old ears, too. A couple of weeks ago I dug a 1916s Barber dime out of an area in one of our oldest parks that is literally saturated with tabs, bottle caps, can slaw and foil. The dime was about 5" deep and in the same clod at 2" deep and 1" off to the side of the dime was a bottle cap. With 0 disc. the dime was a sharp high tone tic and the bottle cap was less distinct...kind of a broken mid/high tone. I'm convinced it helps me anyway. HH jim tn

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Thanks Jim. What tone option do you typically run in your parks?

I was so used to 3H tones from my F70 that I started with that on the LTD, and it seemed to do well, but then switched to 4 (not 4H), and didn't see a major difference, aside from another tone to decipher. I understand the 4 tone option is similar to the CZ70 & CZ3D 4 tone setting for finding older coins, BUT we have the added benefit of TID #'s that the CZ does not, so I think less noise to mentally process could be better in the long run (too much information and you audio fatigue easier in a trashy area). I switched back to 3H a few weeks ago, and seem to be digging more wheats then with 4 tones, but that's about the only difference I've noticed so far.

HH,
Brian

 

[jim tn]

Brian, I use 3h most of the time myself. I do use 4h on some spots, those that are old enough to have coins older then wheats. With the F 75 most Indian Head cents I found came in with tones 2 and 3 of 4h setting. Those tones, like the high tone of 3h alerts me to carefully investigate the target.

Well, my four days in a roll silver run came to a halt today. All I could muster this morning was 6 wheats and a little clad.

Hope everyone can get out this weekend and get a full pouch of goodies. HH jim tn