So Guys What do you Think about the Live Stream V4 information?

[CT Todd]

I found the live stream to be very interesting. I'm hoping that we don't have to be the test bed for the new software IE V4, V4.1, 4.2,4.3....... in quick succession. Although given the past releases I think its going to go that way as per usual. My take away from this is that it is a very exciting prospect. I think that a lot of it's usefulness will depend on the users ability to program or "setup" the unit to take advantage of the possibility's. It could be quite the earful in busy ground with adjacent targets. But it could give you some advantage in target rich spots. Nobody knows yet. Since it's to be released next Friday and they said that they weren't sure if some of the features are going to be in it or not. I think it will be a wait and see before I purchase the headphones and do the download. Of course on Saturday the YOUTUBE world is going to explode with the greatest program ever guys. Who of course will know Nothing by then. Did anyone happen to hear if different volume levels for each channel were possible? If they did I missed it. That would be a great addition even in Mono for those of us with hearing issues. Lets talk about what you all think. I'm going to make this a Sticky on the forum for a while.

 

[D&P-OR]

Todd----You asked "what do we think".-----Well---I don't understand it!-----Also, think it would take a lot of the fun out of detecting----I'm stopping on 3.1---that's it for me.---What do I know though---I'm just an old foggy that got started in this crazy hobby 50+ yrs. ago.

 

[RichW]

Todd----You asked "what do we think".-----Well---I don't understand it!-----Also, think it would take a lot of the fun out of detecting----I'm stopping on 3.1---that's it for me.---What do I know though---I'm just an old foggy that got started in this crazy hobby 50+ yrs. ago.

I'm with you, I can't get my head around it yet.

 

[squirrel1]

I have the ST headphones.
Will be looking at when version becomes available.
Will be showing some videos too.

 

[sube]

I am still on version 1.0 . -2 here feels like -21 hope you guys figure it out before detecting season starts here stay warm . sube

 

[BigTony]

I thought it was too long and I couldn’t figure out how to message them any questions.
It is an interesting concept especially if it gets deeper good targets as they said it will.
I had ordered the headphones prior to this live event because I was hoping that stereo will assist me in hearing better. I have hearing loss in both ears and use aids. I really hope there isn’t feedback while wearing them. I use the XL’s now and they do help me.
What I will need to understand is how to use non motion mode and different reactivity in both channels.
Tony NJ

 

[targets]

Although I have some hearing loss I am on the early versions so don’t see me upgrading as the versions suit me fine ,unless there’s some breathtaking results from the new phones

 

[BigTony]

Although I have some hearing loss I am on the early versions so don’t see me upgrading as the versions suit me fine ,unless there’s some breathtaking results from the new phones

I understand but I am happy that we can go back to other versions. I recently went back to version2.0 from 3.1. The HF2 coil gave higher tones on very small bits of aluminum that i thought were good targets but weren’t.

 

[CT Todd]

I have two Deus II units complete. I run .071 software on them. I have tried to move up to new software a couple of times but end up back at .071 ( I like how things sound in this software) One thing I never do is move both units at once to a new software platform. I move one and test. I do believe that once the bugs are shaken out of the new software that it will be the thing to have, even if you don't program right and left channels as separate programs. I'm thinking that running the V4 software in Mono (same sound to each ear) with the ability to adjust just the volume level for each ear will be a great help to me as a guy with compromised hearing in my left ear. You will need the new headphones to do this of course.
I spent years teaching the CTX and Deus Boot Camps I see the need for hands on training coming back. It will take a little time to wrap your heads around how this will work for you but I don't think it will be too bad in the end. Get out there.

 

[sube]

I struggled through the video was like listening to customer service lol . Did not see any test with several targets under the coil at one time.
Wanted to see how confusing it was to listen to 2 detectors at once .
The morphing of the detector seemed to loose punch on the deeper targets like the CTXs trace or Manticore but this was audio ? not trace .
The deeper the target the less morph as CTXs and Manticore trace .
I have a hard enough time separating targets with one detector in a target rich area now 2 ?
Will be watching TSS vids to see if there are any advantages over separation and depth as of now not seeing much . As Todd I have 2 deus 2 set up different from each other .sube

 

[CT Todd]

I struggled through the video was like listening to customer service lol . Did not see any test with several targets under the coil at one time.
Wanted to see how confusing it was to listen to 2 detectors at once .
The morphing of the detector seemed to loose punch on the deeper targets like the CTXs trace or Manticore but this was audio ? not trace .
The deeper the target the less morph as CTXs and Manticore trace .
I have a hard enough time separating targets with one detector in a target rich area now 2 ?
Will be watching TSS vids to see if there are any advantages over separation and depth as of now not seeing much . As Todd I have 2 deus 2 set up different from each other .sube

Well there was a lot going on and quickly on the live stream. With really just the Frenchman knowing what the answers were to questions. The USA rep Merril has no idea what he’s talking about. Remember his videos when he was a big anti Minelab guy.
We will figure this out but it will take time. The real deal is that you don’t have to do anything at all unless you choose to. I’m quite happy with my D2 the way it is and don’t think I miss very much But you only know what you find, not what you miss.

 

[D&P-OR]

Todd-----Is that Merrill guy "Uncle Fester" (or what ever his name was on The Adams Family)?----On a "second career" perhaps???------Just curious!

 

[abcoin]

My take away from this is that it is a very exciting prospect. I think that a lot of it's usefulness will depend on the users ability to program or "setup" the unit to take advantage of the possibility's.

I agree and am also excited by this update. I've been holding off on buying the new headphones but will probably pick up a pair once they're generally available and the inevitable bugs in the software are worked out.

I also think you're right that this is going to make it even more important for people to use the right settings. Whatever two programs you combine with the stereo option, they have to be complimentary to some degree (one high reactivity and one low, for example). That also means two sets of settings to adjust and could be a recipe for confusion.

 

[squirrel1]

Could user still use adjacent program settings.
Meaning just listen to channel 1 after locating with multi processing or vice versa? Hmm
Lot of options for user.
Stay tuned.
Could Deus 2 using multi processing sweeping put situation that’s under the coil to one’s ear via stereo headphones vs maybe more like
Manticore that could put info ( or hints of info) on the screen (not so much in the audio)? Hmm
Question is what do we stop initially to investigate a target? Based on tonal presentation or based on screen presentation?

 

[squirrel1]

You see. I have been showing a lot of videos with Deus 2 actually last few years where I have compared adjacent programs using using different T settings. Even using HF2 coil. Haven’t seen many people doing this testing or in the wild via you tube.
It has been in my mind wonder if freq could be alter as well on a platform along with other settings (parameters) and function and have some advantage. Be like a multi multi freq (This would be supreme Multi processing).
You see how much time is needed actually with normal sweep speed for adequate info to be gathered by the coil and processed?
What is happening with Deus 2 with multi processing I think clearly shows back in time it was the electronics(processor) that was holding detector back. And maybe why engineers never went here previously. Up jumps the Devil called Xp!

 

[squirrel1]

Anyone notice using V3.1 using FMF coil what a copper penny read versus zincoln ? About the same right..
So could using multi processing feature allow on average the older deeper generally copper Pennie’s to be identified for digging. Meaning the shallower zincolns exposed moreso…. You disc or notch zincoln with version 3.1 you stand s chance to miss copper pennnies and perhaps some other smaller silver denomination coins. Some thing to think about.
You may ask yourself why I am posting this info. Guess…

 

[squirrel1]

Could what I have showed with Deus 2 video wise played a part in what Xp has done here with the creation of multi processing? IDK. Possible though.
Go back and look last week what I showed comparing Manticore with Deus 2. A weakness with Deus 2. This weakness not so weak anymore it seems with multi processing feature. Depth and separation/unmasking more achievable with one sweep of coil vs earlier versions. Need the ST headphones though to be able to hear other channel info (audio).