So what can REACTIVITY do for you?

[Golden Eagle]

Good video Henrik. Goed gedaan!

Andy, what do you make of this video? I really want to hear your opinion of it I respect what you have to say.

Kind regards,

Rob
A California Yankee in King Willem Axender's Court

 

[Andy Sabisch]

The video is well done and shows how a specific target in a specific area with specific settings responds in V2.0 and V3.1.

Are there differences between teh two versions . . . . well clearly there are or there would be no new version

The one factor that has resulted in negative press on the V3.1 package is that you have people that are experienced with V2.0 and then are trying to get enhanced performance in a short period of time with V3.1. There is a lot that is the same but a lot is different so some settings do not translate from one version to the other.

Is there a difference in how targets respond? Yes and the V3.1 response is somewhat more "clipped" than V2.0 was on targets - smaller and deeper. With that said, I will say that after some testing on in-ground, undisturbed targets (not air tests or freshly buried), I have tweaked the response to the deeper / smaller targets to make them just as easy to discren as on V2.0 . . . for me.

I understand that using one of the pre-defined programs for comparisions is an obvious route and lets everyone see how something responds in a known program but I very rarely use one of the preset programs without a few tweaks and saving it as a custom program. I always say that XP shoudl have called them P1, P2, P3, etc. rather than names of XP models that the settings try to emmulate as most of us have no experience with the other machines.

So as far as my thoughts on the video . . . it shows that V3.1 responds differently than V2.0 but with some slight adjustments, the response can be optimzed

Andy

 

[Golden Eagle]

Thank you for your response Andy! I'm seriously thinking of selling my CTX 3030 to get an XP Deus. Although the 3030 is a beast with a pretty accurate VDI, deep, customizable, runs FBS 2, waterproof, etc... even with the Detector Buddy on (Great Product BTW!), my back is trashed after 3 hours and for me this is a big deal since I am a chiropractor and I've learned form my patients not to ignore backpain as down the road it can lead to something worse. I had a XP Deus for about a year but likely do to user error I was simply picking up too much trash and my frustrations were very similar to the first post on the thread started by mntnflyr4fun: http://www.findmall.com/read.php?83,1942278. So now I'm back in the market for a Deus but I do want to avoid the problems that plagued me before. Keep up the great work Andy, you're a credit to the hobby!

Rob
A California Yankee in King Willem Alexander's Court

 

[JBM]

Oh dear !, where has it gone. Jerry.

 

[parkgt]

Andy,

Why the choice of 12 kHz for your coin hunting programs? It would seem that 8 kHz would be better for programs intented for US coins.

Thanks

 

[Andy Sabisch]

I find that the choice between 8 kHz and 12 kHz is a close one . . . . if I am not finding a lot of aluminum, I tend to run at 12 but it does hit the smaller pieces of trash harder than 8 kHz. I do not see a marked difference in how the typical US coins I am looking for hit in these two frequencies and have two identical programs saved in adjacent slots that allow me to switch between the two and either alter what I hunt in or check signals that are "head scratchers."

Hope this answers the question

Andy

 

[samandnoah]

have two identical programs saved in adjacent slots that allow me to switch between the two and either alter what I hunt in or check signals that are "head scratchers."

Hey Andy --

Not a life and death question, but when you say 2 identical programs in 8kHz and 12kHz, I'm curious whether you mean truly identical, or do you adjust the tone break points for the differences in VDI readings? That's it.
Thanks,
Rich

 

[Andy Sabisch]

If I am running multilpe breaks, yes I adjust each for that but I tend to run a bit wide open with 2 - 3 breaks to ID iron . . . high trash areas will call for multiple breaks and yes, adjusting them accordingly

Andy

 

[CZconnoisseur]

12kHz will also hit smaller gold harder than 8kHz - so for tot lots with woodchips, sand, pebbles, etc a higher search freq may help a little. I don't have any trouble finding jean rivets at depth along with pot metal toy parts in 8 kHz - just need to get the coil over GOLD because I know I'll dig it!

 

[Old California]

Good morning Andy,

I'm new to the Deus, Just arrived last night and will be using it for the first time out in the field this weekend. Can see how the (REACTIVITY) mode can be an advantage was playing with it this morning in the back yard, Since I'm new with the Deus will be using the Deus fast program with some minor changes on my first relic hunt the site dates from 1790's to 1860's. Sort of feels like the XP GoldMaxx Power performance wise but then with the Reactivity feature cranked up this is were the Deus has the edge with faster processing over the GoldMaxx Power.

Another program that got my attention is the Prospecting mode, Now that is one neat addition can see using this for gold jewelry hunting and maybe for relic hunting as well. Was testing prospecting mode around square nails in the back yard but what I did was disc them out using 5 discrimination so I would'nt need to watch the screen and boy this may be a good relic mode for those that hunt around allot of iron.

Prefer hearing iron when I hunt so maybe there is a way to separate iron with a tone of it's own when using prospecting mode being new to the Deus still so much to learn with making adjustments and such, Tried the relic mode in the back yard but that appears to be a mode not suited for my type of hunting so will go with deus fast and Prospecting mode for now until I can put together my own programs.

Got your Book Andy so will be reading up on it this weekend, Take care!

Paul (Ca)

 

[Southwind]

OK forgive my ignorance but I'm still new to the Deus when it comes to making adjustments. I was trying to set a program like Andy's but just can't grasp the Notch-Tones setup. Here is a few shots of my tones & notch, what am I missing?

Thanks

 

[Sleepyjim]

2 seperate things so lets start with Notch, going by your screen shot: Firs the buttons, dwn is to switch between notch 1 (N1), 2 or 3. The Rht arrow is for selecting threshold 1 or 2 of each notch (threashold 1 is starting point, 2 would be ending point), back arrow leaves screen, Now looking at your screen it shows a notch start (thresh1) at 57 and ending (see bar and nuber) at 70, so that would be notching out 57 to 70. The way to change the numbers is to use te - and + buttons when either threshold is selected, so selcting threshold 2 you can increase from 70 to say 80 using the + button or decrease from 70 to say 60, using the - button.
So you can set up 3 different notch settings. Set one and then use dwn arrow to move to next notch and set it and so on........Finish by using the back button (far right).

Now tones....Oh heck, let me just post these for you.......

 

[CZconnoisseur]

OK forgive my ignorance but I'm still new to the Deus when it comes to making adjustments. I was trying to set a program like Andy's but just can't grasp the Notch-Tones setup. Here is a few shots of my tones & notch, what am I missing?

Thanks

Ok so Im guessing you want to notch out 57-70 from your pics for aluminum trash...

You basically have three potential regions you can notch - for instance if you're a US coinshooter and you want to dig mostly coins and exclude pulltabs and foil, you can notch (rather than disc) these regions without any compromise on depth. The easiest way I've seen it done is for N1...if you don't want to dig some iron and foil simply set N1 to notch 10-30 (just an example here). For N2 you can choose to reject a higher region for, say pulltabs at 57-70. And for N3 if you want to reject larger iron I would notch 97-99 if you're running in 8 kHz.

After you set your notch windows you can tailor your 5-tone setup for individual coins. If it were me I would put more spacing between iron and higher conductors. You can go as low as 100 Hz but some people have trouble hearing that frequency - There's not much difference b/t 200 and 322 Hz in my opinion - and if you want non-ferrous targets to "sing" over the iron buzz raise that first low-conductor non-iron tone to 400 or 500 Hz. Silver in 8 Khz (for me at least) runs 86-95 and copper pennies from 77-85, zincolns and some Indian cents go from 66-76 so set these values to work best in your soil.

I used a 5-tone program for a while but full tones makes so much more sense and I'm used to it now. The biggest limitation with using 5-tones is that the upper and lower regions are for iron most of the time, which "wastes" 2 tones the way I had it set (others use it differently - this is only a personal preference)

Hope this helps!

 

[Southwind]

I think I got it. I just didn't know the second time around pushing the arrow went to where you could adjust the range. That was what I was missing. This is how I got it now.

Thanks all!