purchased a brand new sovereign elite from a dealer that had one left over after the gt came out, and played around with it in the back yard three or four times to try to learn it. Well then i saw the tesoro's he got in and purchased one. needless to say i never picked up the sovereign after that. now i have the cibola and vaquero and said i will hold on to the sovereign if i want to hunt the salt beaches. a year later and i still have not hunted on the beach nor do i have the desire i am happy with what i have and the places i hunt. it's brand new with the box and meter which i never even put on. i also purchased the case so i can hip mount it as i expected it to be a little heavy for me, never even got to use that. . maybe has 1 and half hours on it. let me know if you are interested in it $450 plus shipping without meter. $500 plus shipping with meter