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Square tabs?
- Thread starter Bill Ladd
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mtdoramike
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Jackpine Savage
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there is a wide variety of square tabs. On the ID Excel the newer ones mostly hit in the 11-12 range but they go on up to 16-17 with everything in between. Very few if any in the nickel range. 
The Excel will see them quite deep on fresh water beaches and when they are near the detectors limit they read a lot higher than normal. Have chased a bunch of em when after old copper /silver coins on this particular beach.
Tom
The Excel will see them quite deep on fresh water beaches and when they are near the detectors limit they read a lot higher than normal. Have chased a bunch of em when after old copper /silver coins on this particular beach.
Tom
Jackpine Savage
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Quick response as I'm just leaving here.
IH's 17-19 in undisturbed soil and fallow hayfields with no nearby targets.Have only found 2 V's and Buff's with the Excel and don't remember the exact reading but they were in the clear targets also and read close to or right on nickel.
Tom
IH's 17-19 in undisturbed soil and fallow hayfields with no nearby targets.Have only found 2 V's and Buff's with the Excel and don't remember the exact reading but they were in the clear targets also and read close to or right on nickel.
Tom
BUt John's C$ homepage says this is wrong that it's usually lower.....
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>>>sticker on the control housing is just wrong. It shows Square Tabs at 17-18 and I've never seen one have numbers over 14. This should be the upper end of the Beaver tail range>>>
Basically I'm thinking like if I'm using the Excel & I set it to +18. I'd hope to get some indian heads & other high conductive coins & hope to NOT get tabs. Anyone home to do an airtest to see if a tab can be a +18?
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>>>sticker on the control housing is just wrong. It shows Square Tabs at 17-18 and I've never seen one have numbers over 14. This should be the upper end of the Beaver tail range>>>
Basically I'm thinking like if I'm using the Excel & I set it to +18. I'd hope to get some indian heads & other high conductive coins & hope to NOT get tabs. Anyone home to do an airtest to see if a tab can be a +18?
I agree Jackpine. That is the way they read with my CS here in California.mtdoramike
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but these are air tests, not sure what it would read in the ground. I know, I have hit square pulltabs at several different numbers, I guess it depends a lot on ground mineralization maybe.
But, I'm getting the mindset of Tony NC that is dig most everything with consistant positive numbers, might dig a lot of junk, but you also won't pass up a lot of good targets either.
But, I'm getting the mindset of Tony NC that is dig most everything with consistant positive numbers, might dig a lot of junk, but you also won't pass up a lot of good targets either.
I just was trying to clear up what the C$ page says & what the pie chart on top of the C$ says. The C$ page mentions coke product cans being like 11-14 I think it said. So I guess we could really go nuts on various brands (like diet Pepsi is a +14 etc.) 
but just tryin to get an idea. As, I mentioned this is good for Excel users who may wanna set disc on +17 or +18 to coinshoot....HH, Bill
but just tryin to get an idea. As, I mentioned this is good for Excel users who may wanna set disc on +17 or +18 to coinshoot....HH, BillBarnacleBill
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do the VDI Numbers of the C$ directly map over to the Excel within the confines 36? i.e. C$ #18 = Excel #18?
BarnacleBill
BarnacleBill
It's been debated, as there are slight number differences at times. But the major thing is that the Excel goes to +34 as it's top end rather than +99 on C$. This can be looked at as good & bad. We have hot rocks that are the dreaded +51 & also +73 here. So on the C$ you hear 'em. Excel no audio on hot rocks. But +34 on Excel is sorta strange too. A half, silver dollars & some large cents are above +34 on C$. So alotta high conductive stuff reads +34 on the Excel. But, sometimes it seems when the Excel hits large or shallow iron, or is "not sure" on an ID you may see a +34 too. But you'd hate to miss a silver dollar so ya gutta dig it. I would like to have seen an Excel go to +40.....but we gutta be pretty happy with what we gut for the $$. HH. Bill
Bugar In. USA
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Didn have a square tab,, so here goes,Excel @ 4 in. reads the same on Sun Ray Probe also
1922 silver dollar=36
sacajawa= =33
silver dime ====30
regular dime= ====28
indian head 5cent==10
regular nickle=====10
pulltab========11 some 10's
IH Penny 22 flat or on edge=same
wheatie ===27, on edge 26
all hits were solid=no bouncing except the pulltab, all coins clean, good cond, not corroded, nasty and in ground , will vary some, got same reading when using Sun Ray Probe too instead of coil, also found out, very hard to ground balance when 8 in. coil is turned off
1922 silver dollar=36
sacajawa= =33
silver dime ====30
regular dime= ====28
indian head 5cent==10
regular nickle=====10
pulltab========11 some 10's
IH Penny 22 flat or on edge=same
wheatie ===27, on edge 26
all hits were solid=no bouncing except the pulltab, all coins clean, good cond, not corroded, nasty and in ground , will vary some, got same reading when using Sun Ray Probe too instead of coil, also found out, very hard to ground balance when 8 in. coil is turned off
Jackpine Savage
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I have dug tabs that read higher with the C$ but they were not the square tabs. They were those big Wide mouth (burp!!) beer can tabs. 
Bugar In. USA
Active member
Yeah bout like a big beavertail, like some that used to be on greasegun grease cartridges BIIIG
Hawkeye Jim
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Bill - I've dug a 'ton" of square tabs and unless they are damaged or squashed, they usually read in the range of 13 to 15 on the C$ - usually readings of 16 are the old beaver tails if intact. Hawkeye Jim.
Jackpine Savage
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and found a small area where the farmer evidently had the habit of greasing his equipment each year. It was full of those aluminum grease cartridge tear offs! Beep beep beep! 
Hawkeye Jim
New member
how come Fisher never advertises the C$ anymore in all the treasure magazines??? All I ever see advertised is the Excel and the CZ-3D!!! Also, is Fisher planning on any upgrades to the C$ in the near future? Thanks, Hawkeye Jim.
BarnacleBill
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went to a local FW beach tonite. Katrina has been whizzing by, so very wet beach. Put the hair bonnet on the Excel(thank you Ramada) and GB'd her. I was hunting +20 and below, don't want no stink'in coins, bring me gold!
The beach normally gb's on the CZ20 at 5.5, so nothing terrible. Dug about half dozen tabs, all read 2-3 higher in the ground, highest +16 on several. Out of the ground and laid on surface most gave a +11/+12.
BarnacleBill
The beach normally gb's on the CZ20 at 5.5, so nothing terrible. Dug about half dozen tabs, all read 2-3 higher in the ground, highest +16 on several. Out of the ground and laid on surface most gave a +11/+12.
BarnacleBill
Just got the new W&E today (early this month). I did notice the same Excel ad that's been running for a year it seems (I'll never complain as my coins are very bold, & I like that ad). I think that in Fisher's mind the Excel/ 3d are still the "new" additions to their line, & I would say those 2 have been generating their best sales. The C$ was heavily advertised before the Excel/3d so maybe they figure detectorists know about it already? I'd love to see an C$ II or a Relicstrike....we've made suggestions on possible improvements but who knows? If they do drop the CZ-70 hopefully it will be replaced with something new.....HH, Bill