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Switched from GTI 2500 to Safari

Hi Onus just to confirm what u were saying in an earlier post...the quattro/safari is a slow recovering detector whether it's in low or high trash density.Even the top of the range minelabs are slower than most.However this does not make them bad detectors...they are capable of making some great finds and will serve u well when u get used to them.
 
The Safari is actually a pretty quick recovering detector when set in High Density. True, not as fast as some but certainly not slow. I've used alot of machines over the last 30 years and I don't see a big difference in the recovery of the Safari and some of the Fishers or Whites that I've used. I am still learning the tones of this machine but along the way I am making cw relic finds in spots that I thought held nothing else to find. And yes, some of the finds have came from holes with a square nail right beside the minie ball.
Just my opinion, but I have no complaints about the speed, and certainly not the depth which is unmatched, especially in bad ground.........Again, this is just my opinion. HH
 
The Safari from all I have been able to find out is supposed to have a much faster recovery rate than the Quattro. I have seen a video where the recovery rate of the two was tested side by side. It was quite a bit faster. Wish I could remember where I saw the video....youtube I think? Onus Oh, had a few minutes yesterday and went to a tot lot. Not in the sand, but I dug up a clad dime as deep as my digging tool. It was about 9 or 10 inches easy. This is not unusual. I am finding coins two or 3 inches deeper at least than with my 2500. That I like. Onus
 
Bad problems since my last outing. No need to discuss here further. Think I am having electrical problems with detector. Won't post here again until I find out. Onus
 
why minelab did he use. in the deep hunts they had at treasure week the sovereigns didn't seem to like freshly planted targets.
 
I really didn't pay much attention to what model he was using, I just knew he was a dealer and noted that it was a Minelab detector. I did notice that he seemed to have a very large coil, however it may have been one of the newer 11" standard coils like on the Safari? Will pay more attention in the next hunt in April. Onus
 
Let me clear up mu mystery about the problems I am having. I may have bought a batch of bad batteries from Rayovac. I just got a set of the Sanyo eneloops that I am anxious to try. When I got them and installed them in the Safari the battery indicator was only showing half charge. So, I put them in the charger and within 30 minutes or less they were showing full charge. My charger is an Energizer that is supposed to fully recharge a battery in an hour. So, the Sanyos must have been pretty hot to begin with. I talked to the service people and they tell me that if the batteries were bad it would or could cause the types of problems I have been having. So, I am going on a hunt this weekend to a virgin old abandoned Indian campground. It dates back to from 1830 to about 1885. If I don't pull some artifacts out of there I will be sending it in to be checked. My two hunting buddies will be using a Tesoro and another Minelab, so that should tell the tale one way or the other. Sorry for all the crap posts, just getting frustrated. Onus
 
I HAD the GTA1500, and loved it !!But the depth was ok not bad 6to 7 inches,tones killer ill miss them too,went with the T2 not for me
too sensitive ,now the SAFARI Not bad at all dug a nickel at about 8 to ten inches,and the tones were good.but like you im having a little trouble with the tones too.Well happy hunting!!!!
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Made the camp ground hunt , but my "guide " put us on the wrong spot. Still found a 1916 Wheatie and some interesting junque. Learned some things about using better batteries and really pleased with the Eneloops. Going back the last Sunday of the month to the correct site and expecting much better results. Liking the Safari better and now it is talking to me a little clearer. Onus
 
We've had everything from rain to sleet to snow and back to rain since my last post, so I haven't been able to get out again. But instead of wasting time, I did some air testingto try to learn the tones better. I found that if I ran the coin program in the Ferrous mode I could recognize the sounds better than in the Conductivity mode. So, that's how I set it up and in Low trash because obviously there was no trash in air testing. Then I gathered up various items that I commonly come across while out detecting and put them one at a time under the 6" DD coil. I was able to identify 4 distinct separate tones and as I tested each item I put it with the other things that gave the same sound. And here is what I came up with, describing the tones as I heard them. (I have a high frequency hearing loss so they may sound different to you).

1. High pitched "tweet": Quarters, both clad and silver, half dollars, .925 silver mans ring, 1923 silver dollar. All registered 37 or 38 in the silver range on the scale.
2. High pitched "twitter": Dimes, clad and silver both, wheat cents, copper pennies. They registered 38 in the silver range.
3 Medium high pitched "Whistle", sounds like someone blowing a whistle: aluminum can slaw, newer aluminum pull tabs, nickels. They registered14, in the gold/aluminum range.
4. Lower tone "toot" but not as low as iron if it were not discriminated out: Brass shell casings, jacketed bullets, zinc penny, registered copper at 34.**However, a large mans gold ring had the same sound but was in the gold/aluminum range at 22.

If several of the objects were laid out close together it would recover fast enough to hear more than one object and separate them out.
 
Scratch that last post! Objects in the ground sound different. Close, but no cigar! Every time I think I am gaining on the learnig curve it seems like I fall back two steps. I have a club hunt next weekend where I know there will be "good" targets and very little trash. I am going to give it a try and see how I do. I am especiall interested in the deep silver hunt, silver quarters and dimes at 9". I was never able to find them with the GTI 2500 as about 5" was usually max on freshly planted coins even in the all metal mode. If I have the same results with the Safari, watch for a good buy on a Safari. Onus
 
Do you mean you would sell it ? And it will be a GOOD BUY, or would you be saying "Good Bye" to the safari ? Please post after the hunt as I am curious to see how you did, us new safari owners need all the news we can get, Both Good and Bad !! I hope the positives can start to out weigh the negatives.
 
same here , thanks for the positive response. When I used to use the xlt I had to get to know the machine, same goes for the safari. I believe it will find anything and everything if given the chance. Also being in the right place at the right time helps. I invested too much in this machine to go back or to turn my back on it. LEARNING CURVES are always gonna be there, we must be up for the challenge and then persevere. I'm sure the payoff will be well worth it !! Ron
 
The Safari is NOT just a "beep-dig" detector. It uses the same technology as the Explorer SE and E-trac without most of the I.D. and audio options. I'm sure it is simple to someone familiar with FBS technology, but the rest of us have to learn to listen to it. I wish these were around 31 years ago when I started relic hunting.
 
Its the evolution of the metal detector. Remember way back when they first came out with beta or the vcr, or the first computers, etc. Imagine how big and expensive an FBS detector would have been. For every time there is a season. I really enjoy using my safari, in fact I am going out today and tommorrow.
A school campus from early 1700's still a school today, not a university. Recently found two rings and a handfull of clad. Also an old abandoned farm complete with house, barn and outbuildings circa: 1820's-1860's. This property is up for sale I am going to get in touch with the realtor to secure permission.
Ron
 
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