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T2 Audio Mode Target Processing

Mike Hillis

Well-known member
I'm moving this onto it's own thread. Sometimes when you have a lot of options to chose from it helps have a little understanding about the options. I hope the following is helpful: :nerd:

Need to remember that the audio and visual modes are processing the target signals independent of each other. It is like having two separate machines operating together at the same time.

At first glance when you are choosing a "# of Tones" audio selection to use in the Disc mode, you may think that you are just selecting how many tones you'll hear for the tone id. You can choose between 1, 2, 3, 4, and multi-tone, Tone Id. But what you are really selecting along with the above is how you want the audio mode to process the signal response for the audio side of the detector. And along with that, two modes also change the way the visual id processes the signal.

If you go back to the manual you will find that you can choose between several audio signal processes: Continuous, sampled, or some combination of both.

The 1, 1+, and dP audio modes use continuous signal processing for the audio. You get to hear the entire signal from leading edge, peak, to falling edge of the signal. There is no internal threshold that limits how much of the signal you hear so you get to hear everything that the target might produce. Your sweep speed combined with the signal strength and target position under the coil (and nearby trash) is the only limiting factors as to how much information the audio can convey. Remember that the audio is separate from the visual id so it is quite possible to get good audio signals without a visual ID on the deeper signals. Each of these three audio modes also offer their own special characteristics to work with the signal processing. 1 is a nice single tone that doesn't offer any distractions. Nice, Plain, and Simple. 1+ adds a little more information in that the VCO aspect immediately tells you signal strength. For the tone lovers like me, the dP mode gives the nice full audio processing with the addition of multitone conductive id. These are the modes to use when you are wanting to look really deep but still need to use some discrimination (otherwise go to the All Metal mode)

The 2+ mode uses a split sampling process. Continuous processing for the high tone side, but a combination of continuous and sampled for the low tone iron side. One aspect of 'Sampled' means that there is an internal threshold that has to be reached in order for a signal to produce a audio response. This gives you a nice long audio look at the non-ferrous signals, but helps to keeps the ferrous responses short. This in combination with the Biaxial coil is what makes this mode so good in the iron. The natural separation ability of the DD coil is enhanced by the quick response time of the T2 and then further enhanced by keeping the ferrous responses short means less iron masking and better iron see through ability. High conductors in medium to heavy iron trash will give a tight, short, cutoff high tone however, so even though the signal processing is continuous, the amount of iron will have an effect.

The 3 and 4 tone modes also use a combination of continuous and sampled signal processing. It works just like the 2+ ferrous response mentioned above, except it affects the entire discriminatory range. Both of these modes work really well in the higher trash areas and still get pretty decent depth. These modes also tie in with the visual id the best.

The 3b mode also uses a combination of continuous and sampled signal processing but with a tighter threshold on the sampled side that requires a more stable peak signal response. This mode was specially designed for sites that that have lots of the steel crown style bottle caps, or any area that may require a tighter peak signal target id.

The Visual ID side only uses a sampled signal process. It works on a different sampling process than that of the audio modes and is the same for all audio modes but one. When you chose the 3b audio mode, you are also selecting to use a Visual ID mode that uses a tighter sampling process for the visual id. This is probably the least independent mode you can select and I tend to think that the same sampling process is used for both the audio and visual id modes.

I have thoughts that the dP mode also changes the visual id sampling process just by the amazing way the audio can sound so good, yet not give a visual.

Another sweet thing about these audio modes is that it is very easy, fast and simple to switch between them and test signals with different modes. Once you understand the processing piece it is easy to switch between a processing mode to see if you can further enhance that deep signal you aren't quite sure about, or attempt a better id in the trash.

HH
 
I'm going to pin it to the top of the page for a while, so it doesn't get loss in the pile.

Bill
 
I so much much appreciate when these posts come up from guys doing the great research on this new T2. So many times that you have helped me in my understanding you are the guys that make the forum worth it's weight in gold!

Appreciated by KCK
 
n/t
 
Mike,

I do not have a T2, but am getting close.

Did you glean all this information from the manual alone or is it augmented by your experiences? It seems as though reading the manual gives you a flavor of the machines power, but actual user experience greatly improves one's understanding and appreciation for the T2 features.

I think that I got the impression somewhere that you also have experience with the Minelab Xterra series. How would you compare the T2 to the X70? I want to make sure that I make the correct choice. I presently own a White XLT and Surfmaster PI to go along with my Minelab Explorer II. I am looking to go back over the trashy areas (that were very productive using the Explorer) and see what got left behind.

HH
 
Hi Captain Kirk. Loved your show :thumbup:

Answer to first question is actual use. September was the one year aniversary date for the T2 and I.

Comparing the T2 vs the Xterrra 70. They are very different machines. Both machines balanced out well and your arm will love either one of them after using the Exp. I didn't like the grip on the Xterra or the pinpoint and felt the 4 tone option was a waste. I liked the notches. The tone options are just tone options.

The T2 had the best pinpoint going. When you chose a tone option you are also chosing a signal processing mode. I didn't experience alot of electrical interference but I did experince a lot of ground chatter from my ground which showed up on the T2 as both highly magnetic with ground cancel numbers in the mid 80s to lower/mid 90s, and heavily mineralized with .1 and .3 being common FE3O4 readings.
The T2 is much faster than the Xterra. The T2 went deeper than the Xterra in my ground.

If you are looking to go behind the Exporer then I would recomend the T2 over the Xterra. Also the T2 has a true all metal mode that works much better than the Xterra.

Don't know if that is what you are after or not.

HH
 
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