T2 JUMPY ID?

[justin767]

I have been using my T2 for a little while now but I am thinking that the ID numbers aren't that reliable. It seems that when targets are deeper they read different. They also jump around constantly which I know is normal but sometimes it seems to be allot worse then others. I feel like I'm missing something when it reads as trash. I ha vent been out that many times with the T2 so its still a little new to me. I was just wondering if threes anything I could to make it more accurate. Would a different coil make a difference or a certain way to set it up to fix this problem? Do I just have to DIG EVERYTHING. I was at a somewhat trashy area and I was just digging trash every hole because the id jumps around so much I always think I'm missing something. I'm sure I will get better at deciphering the pattern but I would definitely appreciate any advice on this situation.

 

[Elton]

Make sure your getting a good ground balance.Also try lower sensitivity......

 

[TerraDigger]

Justin:
The T2 is a excellent detector, in certain applications. But as a former owner of one I couldn't agree with you more. That's why I am a former owner. I now own the Omega. I am primarily a coinshooter and I 'Do' want a stable target ID. I find it quite useful, if one takes the time to understand what a target ID is saying. There are alot of other variables involved besides just reading a ID number to get an idea of what one has under the coil. But a stable ID goes a long way to increasing the odds in accurately predicting targets. Personally, I find the Omega outfitted with the 11" DD to be superior to the T2 with the 11" DD for coinshooting. Mind you, the Omega needs that 11" DD coil, not it's stock concentric coil to reach that elevated status. I would much rather have 1" less depth and more stability, than dig alot of useless holes due to jumpy/questionable target ID's. I know from experience. Plus its fairly well known that the T2 target ID suffers in proportion to the increased amount of mineralization present. Just my two cents.

Now as far as coils go. Yes there is a coil that will help. Its the 5" DD. You have to get the T2 brand coils. They are specific to this machine only. Don't try using a 5" DD from another First Texas detector. Won't work. Getting the 5" may be more feasible than buying a new detector.
Its 1 1/2-2" less depth than the 11" DD. Can you say dime at 8" !! The little bugger is awesome. Your ID's will improve some and the coil can be run at higher sensitivity when EMI is present. Its ablility in heavy trash is incredible. Do remember though, all DD coils have trouble reading iron correctly, and especially get fooled by certain iron/steel bottlecaps. There are techniques you can learn to lessen the bottlecap issue. I'll leave you to learn that by searching this forum. The answers are here.

BTW The 5" is my favorite on the Omega also.

Good Luck

I forgot to add that you should pay attention to Elton's advice. It's very solid. Need to watch the sensitivity, as the T2 is a high strung, powerful thorougbred in the sens dept. Better to be a tad under than over. Being over will really mess up the ID's. And as far as ground balance, alot of people that consider themselves experienced/experts still don't do it right. If your going to learn one thing as a detectorist. Let it be perfect ground balancing technique.

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

Justin:
The T2 is a excellent detector, in certain applications. But as a former owner of one I couldn't agree with you more. That's why I am a former owner. I now own the Omega. I am primarily a coinshooter and I 'Do' want a stable target ID. I find it quite useful, if one takes the time to understand what a target ID is saying. There are alot of other variables involved besides just reading a ID number to get an idea of what one has under the coil. But a stable ID goes a long way to increasing the odds in accurately predicting targets. Personally, I find the Omega outfitted with the 11" DD to be superior to the T2 with the 11" DD for coinshooting. Mind you, the Omega needs that 11" DD coil, not it's stock concentric coil to reach that elevated status. I would much rather have 1" less depth and more stability, than dig alot of useless holes due to jumpy/questionable target ID's. I know from experience. Plus its fairly well known that the T2 target ID suffers in proportion to the increased amount of mineralization present. Just my two cents.

Now as far as coils go. Yes there is a coil that will help. Its the 5" DD. You have to get the T2 brand coils. They are specific to this machine only. Don't try using a 5" DD from another First Texas detector. Won't work. Getting the 5" may be more feasible than buying a new detector.
Its 1 1/2-2" less depth than the 11" DD. Can you say dime at 8" !! The little bugger is awesome. Your ID's will improve some and the coil can be run at higher sensitivity when EMI is present. Its ablility in heavy trash is incredible. Do remember though, all DD coils have trouble reading iron correctly, and especially get fooled by certain iron/steel bottlecaps. There are techniques you can learn to lessen the bottlecap issue. I'll leave you to learn that by searching this forum. The answers are here.

BTW The 5" is my favorite on the Omega also.

Good Luck

I forgot to add that you should pay attention to Elton's advice. It's very solid. Need to watch the sensitivity, as the T2 is a high strung, powerful thorougbred in the sens dept. Better to be a tad under than over. Being over will really mess up the ID's. And as far as ground balance, alot of people that consider themselves experienced/experts still don't do it right. If your going to learn one thing as a detectorist. Let it be perfect ground balancing technique.

Great post here! Lots of useful knowledge!

 

[justin767]

Thanks alot friends!!! This really adds on to what I already figured out in the field! I just bought the 5in coil last week but only got to try it once. Cant wait to go back out after reading all the info! My conclusion is that I have been running the sense a little too high thinking I had to to get good depth! As far as ground balancing goes I have alot to learn! I do understand how it works and I do have to use fast grab every 10 to 20 mins it seems like! Depending on the location! I havent tried the manual ground balancing yet but I have been reading alot about it and it seems that if you can master that it makes a drastic difference. Now its time to go play and see what happens! Thanks again for all the help! I love this forum!

 

[Pops]

Nearing the end of my 3rd season with my T2 I have learned a few things about the detector. I have the standard 11" DD coil a 5" DD coil as well as the 18X12 SEF butterfly coil. Each have their own niche in my coin shooting activities. In trashy areas the standard and SEF coil seem to have jumpy target id's but in truth there is most likely more than one target under the coil. Approaching the target from a different direction and slowly nosing the coil forward will separate the targets for you unless they are very close in proximity to each other. I have found that it is not necessary to run super hot on the sensitivity...most coins are less than 6 inches deep so the higher sensitivity will result in excess chatter. I prefer a silent search and don't care for the chatter. With that being said, some areas have the potential of very deep targets so I crank the sensitivity up to try to find those whispers we hear about. Don't rely on TID solely to decide to dig or not, as has been stated on other post the T2 tones and TID act independently of each other. A good tone and a bad or jumpy TID is a digger for me. It's a fact of our hobby that we dig alot of trash, that's why my trash receptacle is way bigger than my keeper pouch. As far as settings, my initial setting to any area regardless of coil is 70 sens, 21 disc and three tones. I emphasize these are my initial settings and do not hesitate to adjust them on the fly at any time I feel the need. You have purchased a great detector and the more you swing it the better you'll get. Nothing can take the place of hands on experience and getting to know your detector.