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T2 vs Racer
- Thread starter Justin E
- Start date
owned two of the original T2's and used them a fair amount.
However, I will say this about both the FORS and Racer models. They balance well and, to me, seem a little easier to make adjustments and cruise though the menu. They also give a much better 'lock-on' to targets in the mid-range to deeper depths than the T2's I have owned and/or borrowed. The T2's were noisier and the display was kind of spastic on many targets over 3" deep, but the FORS and Racer have provided me much tighter and more accurate/consistent readings at depths where the T2's annoyed me.
Still, I would take the Racer w/Pro Pack and the standard and smaller-size coils to the T2 Ltd. with the standard and smaller-size coils because I feel I have experienced improved field performance over the T2's I had. Is the 'new' version any better? Possibly, but I'd gladly take my Nokta FORS CoRe or Makro Racer up against one just to compare the results. Who knows, the results for some testing might be close, but one thing I know is that this time I would be expecting the revised T2 to be an improved performer to come up to, or close to, the in-the-field results of the FORS or Racer.
Monte
Right off the bat I would suggest comparing the Makro Racer to the Teknetics Omega since both of those are close in MSRP and features. To jump up to the T2's MSRP we ought to maybe consider the Nokta FORS CoRe as more similar 'competition,' or so it would seem.Justin E said:
However, I will say this about both the FORS and Racer models. They balance well and, to me, seem a little easier to make adjustments and cruise though the menu. They also give a much better 'lock-on' to targets in the mid-range to deeper depths than the T2's I have owned and/or borrowed. The T2's were noisier and the display was kind of spastic on many targets over 3" deep, but the FORS and Racer have provided me much tighter and more accurate/consistent readings at depths where the T2's annoyed me.
Still, I would take the Racer w/Pro Pack and the standard and smaller-size coils to the T2 Ltd. with the standard and smaller-size coils because I feel I have experienced improved field performance over the T2's I had. Is the 'new' version any better? Possibly, but I'd gladly take my Nokta FORS CoRe or Makro Racer up against one just to compare the results. Who knows, the results for some testing might be close, but one thing I know is that this time I would be expecting the revised T2 to be an improved performer to come up to, or close to, the in-the-field results of the FORS or Racer.
Monte
Keith Southern
Active member
I tested the T2 S.E. v2 for the factory..
And while the t2 is a great unit.. the Racer will unmask better....depth about equal.. unless you have bad dirt then the racer is less prone to call non ferrous as ferrous at depth like a T2 seems to want to do...
in better dirt the T2 will be deeper stock coil vs stock coil...the small coil on the racer is as hot as the small coil on the t2 in BP mode.. maybe a tad deeper.. with better unmasking to boot also..
Keith
And while the t2 is a great unit.. the Racer will unmask better....depth about equal.. unless you have bad dirt then the racer is less prone to call non ferrous as ferrous at depth like a T2 seems to want to do...
in better dirt the T2 will be deeper stock coil vs stock coil...the small coil on the racer is as hot as the small coil on the t2 in BP mode.. maybe a tad deeper.. with better unmasking to boot also..
Keith
Shenandoah Digger
New member
I was really leaning toward the F19 over the Racer/Core. But after seeing how Nokta/Makro responds to their customers, and after personal negative dealings with First Texas, I've decided to go with Nokta/Makro. It's refreshing to see a company respond to a problem with positive comments rather than to go on the defensive. Sounds like a good business model.
basstrackerman
Well-known member
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flbeachhunter
Member
Hello Justin E.
Keith Southern is Relics1864.
Mike
Keith Southern is Relics1864.
Mike
I just got the Racer pro pack and have also played with the CoRe. I have a lot of hours on the T2 and F75. I live between Knoxville and Chattanooga along I75. I also deal with the red clay and red iron dirt (two different things). If you are close, I could get together with you and show you the Racer first hand.
I'm not exactly seeing the better ID in bad soil that some have mentioned. But that is probably just differences in what someone else is calling bad and what I call bad. In my soil, the Racer and CoRe both would ID non ferrous things as ferrous. Approx 6 inches deep was the transition point. Down to 6 inches...you were good at trusting the ID. Beyond that, and you had better start investigating some of those iron signals. I was trying to find the transition point yesterday with a US quarter and found it to be what I stated above. 5 inches and less, its giving solid numbers in the mid to upper 80s with good tone. 6.5 to 7 inches...the quarter is now starting to ID with a mostly iron ID of around 8 to 10 with occasional spikes or bounces from the 60s to 80s. Certainly not the high tone lock in the 80s.
If you lower the ID filter to 5 and lower, I can start to pick up deeper objects that are coming in around 8 to 10 but they'll all ID as iron. I don't particularly see it IDing any better or worse than the T2 or 75...in fact I would say they are decently close to one another. Pre upgraded F75 and T2 units will have the advantage on depth in all metal. Post upgrade units...the Racer and CoRe are probably a touch better. It would be close. I would pick the Racer or CoRe just for the faster recovery speed for working trash. But for overall depth and ID...thats gonna be close IMO and no crystsl clear hands down winner.
I'm not exactly seeing the better ID in bad soil that some have mentioned. But that is probably just differences in what someone else is calling bad and what I call bad. In my soil, the Racer and CoRe both would ID non ferrous things as ferrous. Approx 6 inches deep was the transition point. Down to 6 inches...you were good at trusting the ID. Beyond that, and you had better start investigating some of those iron signals. I was trying to find the transition point yesterday with a US quarter and found it to be what I stated above. 5 inches and less, its giving solid numbers in the mid to upper 80s with good tone. 6.5 to 7 inches...the quarter is now starting to ID with a mostly iron ID of around 8 to 10 with occasional spikes or bounces from the 60s to 80s. Certainly not the high tone lock in the 80s.
If you lower the ID filter to 5 and lower, I can start to pick up deeper objects that are coming in around 8 to 10 but they'll all ID as iron. I don't particularly see it IDing any better or worse than the T2 or 75...in fact I would say they are decently close to one another. Pre upgraded F75 and T2 units will have the advantage on depth in all metal. Post upgrade units...the Racer and CoRe are probably a touch better. It would be close. I would pick the Racer or CoRe just for the faster recovery speed for working trash. But for overall depth and ID...thats gonna be close IMO and no crystsl clear hands down winner.