Target ID stability?

[Mick in Dubbo]

Just wondering if anybody has noticed any differences in you recovery rates when using the target ID stability. I've never thought to use it till today, but have noticed, that on those hunts where you feel like you're "in the zone' where I chase after all sorts of bouncing signals that I don't normally go after, they often turn out to be coins! When I have those days, my coin count doubles! These coins that I recover at those times, have a wildly bouncy TID. Perhaps it's junk next to them. Perhaps it could be a mineralisation issue, but I normally run with the Tracking on. I have the sensitivity at 24 or 25 most of the time, so I could back that off a bit, but has anybody else come across this and overcome it?
Thanks.
Mick Evans.

 

[wizzo86]

I find that to be true in trashy areas. The TDI reads all the junk along with the good. I usually carry my 6" concentric coil. I did that today at a ball field and recovered coins that gave me iffy signals before changing coils from the stock 9" concentric. Also, I find in highly mineralized areas that I have to lower sensativity to 18 or 19. You can always tell from the way the maching is sounding off and indicating very deep targets. When you dig there is usually only stones there. In my area there are small areas like that in a field so I move my sensativy up alot and make sure I'm moved past the mineralization or hot rocks so I can find any deep targets missed if your in a lower sensativity.

 

[utmike]

Hi Mick.

Sounds like we hunt in similar settings. I hope I'm not being too simple by saying this but there are the ones that lock on and the ones that don't. Ground condition, depth, fertilizer, coins on edge, corrosion, other targets nearby,etc... More than anything else, I use the TID to CONFIRM what the AUDIO is telling me. I personally stay away from the stability feature

If it sounds solid, repeats from different angles and is in the TID range of targets that I like, I dig. You are absolutely correct in saying that on those "zone" days the count goes up. I think being willing to stray up and down a few numbers leads to unexpected good finds. Especially with jewelry where size and shapes vary wildly.

Just an opinion, hope you are well!

HH
mike

 

[David]

As far as I understand the only drawback(disadvantage) of the target ID stability + feature is that it stabilizes junk targets making them harder to identify. Otherwise a person should use target ID stability + all of the time to stabilize bouncing signals of good targets.

 

[Terra1959]

Gday mick,

I rarely use that feature .
I have found that I actually like to hear if its jumpy or broken.
Some of the deep, really old coins I've found have been a bit broken and/or jumpy (especially Bronze coins)
Also modern coins where the jacket is breaking down can be jumpy.
Some gold rings have been broken in tone with a solid number
It kinda depends on gut feeling, where I am hunting (if its an old ruin site - I dig), if I feel like digging a iffy signal and the success that I am having that particular day as to whether I dig or walk.
Happy signals mate

T59

 

[Digger]

I have to admit that I do not use the Target ID Stability. As a person who "hunts by ear", I find the numbers don't always align with the tone, in TID Stability. After hearing a solid target tone within the range of tones I want to dig, (multiple tone mode with minimal discrimination) I will flip to Pinpoint Sizing to determine the approximate size and shape of a target, and gather information as to any adjacent targets. By using "non-motion" Pinpoint Sizing, I am also able to monitor the TID number as I pinpoint the target I am after. I don't base my decision whether to "dig or not" on the TID numbers, as I hunt by tone. But the TID number of the non-motion Pinpoint mode are pretty stable, once I center the coil over the suspected target. Plus it gives me a good indication of what color of target I am looking for after I open the hole. (silver, copper, gold etc). JMHO HH Randy

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

Thanks everyone for your input.
I took the 70 out for a hunt today at my favourite spot. It's been reseeded a couple of times since I last hunted there, but it's been hunted by others fairly effectively as I only pulled up 5 and 10 cent pieces till right at the end, when I hunted in an out of the way area a bit and eye balled a couple of 20c coins. i had the 6in concentric coil on with the sensitivity at 22. Even with the ID stability on, I was getting some jumpy readings. One 10c piece in particular, was bouncing around from 10 to 16, although it did mostly bounce around 12 and 14, which would be fairly normal.
Randy. Your comment about the Pinpoint being more stable than the normal mode was interesting as I've always had very unstable readings when in pinpoint (to the point that they are of no value.). I did find myself using the normal pinpoint mode as a more decisive way of checking targets though.
I've been using rechargeable batteries, but remembered folk using other detectors, said that their detectors ran more stable when using non rechargeable batteries, so it might be worth a shot with alkaline batteries for a while and see what happens.
I haven't used the 99 tones much and didn't think that as far as the X-Terra's go, there would have been any difference, however, it could be worth playing around with it to see what happens. I'll try the change in batteries on their own first, then try out the 99 tones after I have figured out if the battery change makes any difference.
Cheers.
Mick Evans.