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Any indication on how the Tejon will perform at a salt water beach in comparison to an Eldorado for example?
Thanks,
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Thanks,
Paul
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mellow-sand freshwater beaches, black sand freshwater river beaches, modestly mineralized ocean beaches and on the extremely salty Great Salt Lake beaches.
How do the Tej
How do the Tej
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Twin Discrimination levels do make sense, just look at the Fisher 1260-66 X Series.
Helps to Identify Targets. Selectivity for some is important for they skip that particular type target to save time and effort.
I used the Tejon in England on the Jimmy Sierra Discovery Tools and it responded lightning fast. I used the twin discriminators to help classify some iffy targets.
I also used the DFX, MXT and Quantum XT... all having their strong points.
I like the idea of Twin Discrimination which is LESS Risky than using a notch system. One can also use twin discriminators to save time at the beach. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="
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Greg,
Trans Bay Metal Detectors, since 1983
Foster City, CA 94404
Helps to Identify Targets. Selectivity for some is important for they skip that particular type target to save time and effort.
I used the Tejon in England on the Jimmy Sierra Discovery Tools and it responded lightning fast. I used the twin discriminators to help classify some iffy targets.
I also used the DFX, MXT and Quantum XT... all having their strong points.
I like the idea of Twin Discrimination which is LESS Risky than using a notch system. One can also use twin discriminators to save time at the beach. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="
">Greg,
Trans Bay Metal Detectors, since 1983
Foster City, CA 94404
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because a notch circuitry is in operation as you are searching, while the dual discrimination approach is used AFTER a target has been located, and then the operator sweeps a few extra passes over the target in the 'triggered' disc. mode.
Yes, Fisher had some very good success with that approach, but ....
I do not like to use notch at all. I DO like the concenpt of the notch discrimination circuitry on the Pantera and Golden Sabre II (and GS-Plus and Royal Sabre) but not for the purpose of notch <EM>rejection</EM>! I used it to set the low-tone/high-tone "break point." I've referred to this through the years as "Tone Break" and I think that has even more usefullness for a model like the Tej
Yes, Fisher had some very good success with that approach, but ....
I do not like to use notch at all. I DO like the concenpt of the notch discrimination circuitry on the Pantera and Golden Sabre II (and GS-Plus and Royal Sabre) but not for the purpose of notch <EM>rejection</EM>! I used it to set the low-tone/high-tone "break point." I've referred to this through the years as "Tone Break" and I think that has even more usefullness for a model like the Tej
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Let me jump in here with my 2 cents worth.
For me the Tejon was a poorer performer at the salt beach than the Eldorado. In fact the Tejon was about the poorest unit I have ever used on my beach
For me the Tejon was a poorer performer at the salt beach than the Eldorado. In fact the Tejon was about the poorest unit I have ever used on my beach
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Mr. Bill,
Thanks for the response. After checking out your link (very good by the way), it seems we are in the same area. I plan on moving to the mid-cape area sometime soon. Also, at that time I will be getting a new detector either the Eldorado with a 7" or the Tejon. Leaning toward the Eldorado. Right now I've been using the Silver for about 2 years.
Thanks again,
Paul (Boston)
Thanks for the response. After checking out your link (very good by the way), it seems we are in the same area. I plan on moving to the mid-cape area sometime soon. Also, at that time I will be getting a new detector either the Eldorado with a 7" or the Tejon. Leaning toward the Eldorado. Right now I've been using the Silver for about 2 years.
Thanks again,
Paul (Boston)
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Bill,
Did you try the Tejon there multiple times? I say this because I frequently hunt the same old sites with the same detector, and even on non-mineralized beaches I have noticed that some days my Explorer has been very erratic and not settling down and other days it is smooth as can be at the same location.
I don't know if it's radio interference or what, but it does happen. Varies year to year to, as this summer was particularly smooth and last summer drove me nuts with trying to get smooth operation. For some reason, the 2 years were like day and night, all at a variety of the same sites! The weather I guess?
Did you try the Tejon there multiple times? I say this because I frequently hunt the same old sites with the same detector, and even on non-mineralized beaches I have noticed that some days my Explorer has been very erratic and not settling down and other days it is smooth as can be at the same location.
I don't know if it's radio interference or what, but it does happen. Varies year to year to, as this summer was particularly smooth and last summer drove me nuts with trying to get smooth operation. For some reason, the 2 years were like day and night, all at a variety of the same sites! The weather I guess?
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without a lot of story, let's leave it at <STRONG>Yes</STRONG>. <img src="/metal/html/shrug.gif" border=0 width=37 height=15 alt=":shrug">
Mr. Bill
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The choice to use in the Tesoro line would be the Eldorado, or if you can find one, the Euro..
None of the Tesoro's are real super on the wet salt sand, but the Eldorado is as good as it's going to get around here using Tesoro. Tesoro also has a real good assortment of optional coils for it, including wide scan types, (DD).
Mr. Bill
None of the Tesoro's are real super on the wet salt sand, but the Eldorado is as good as it's going to get around here using Tesoro. Tesoro also has a real good assortment of optional coils for it, including wide scan types, (DD).
Mr. Bill
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How do they compare in depth. Some posts here seem to insinuate that it may be, under some circumstances, Tesoro's deepest detector.
Thanks,
John
Thanks,
John
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Hi John
As far as the Bandido II Umax. I have never used one in the same environment or together with each other. I have had little time with a Bandido II Umax. I couldn
As far as the Bandido II Umax. I have never used one in the same environment or together with each other. I have had little time with a Bandido II Umax. I couldn
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Believe me, I have used them both, a LOT!
In iron infested trash the Bandido II
In iron infested trash the Bandido II
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Believe me, I have used them both, a LOT!
In iron infested trash the bandido II
In iron infested trash the bandido II
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Your quote: "If it is a large plowed field and targets can be deeper and not close to and other metal target, then I would say the Eldorado has an advantage." Can you explain just how the Eldorado would have the advantage?
Also, does the Eldorado have a non motion all metal mode like the Bandido II uMax?
Just how would the Eldorado have the advantage over the Bandido II uMax in highly mineralized soil?
I would suspect that depth of detection would be equal in any type of soil. The only advantage that I can see that the Eldorado would have would be the possible slightly lower end on the discrimination in that it will pick up small iron objects, but on the other hand the Bandido II uMax would have the advantage with the non motion all metal mode, is this correct?
Kelley (Texas)
Also, does the Eldorado have a non motion all metal mode like the Bandido II uMax?
Just how would the Eldorado have the advantage over the Bandido II uMax in highly mineralized soil?
I would suspect that depth of detection would be equal in any type of soil. The only advantage that I can see that the Eldorado would have would be the possible slightly lower end on the discrimination in that it will pick up small iron objects, but on the other hand the Bandido II uMax would have the advantage with the non motion all metal mode, is this correct?
Kelley (Texas)
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Kelly, I'll answer your post, and I will <span style="background-color:#ffff00;">note</span> any corrections to my original post:
<STRONG><EM>"If it is a large plowed field <span style="background-color:#ffff00;">where</span> targets can be deeper and not close to an<span style="background-color:#ffff00;">y</span> other metal target, then I would say the Eldorado has an advantage." </EM>Can you explain just how the Eldorado would have the advantage?"</STRONG>.... Sure. Note that I was referring to a site with relatively smooth or level ground and there is little, if any, nearby trash. Then, depending upon the model in use and other conditions, I might hunt in a silent-search motion discriminate mode. If I hunt in a Disc. mode in a low-target site, especially if mineralized, I will do so with an all metal accept setting. That means with what Tesoro refers to as an ED-180 discriminate mode.
I have found, after using all the Tej
<STRONG><EM>"If it is a large plowed field <span style="background-color:#ffff00;">where</span> targets can be deeper and not close to an<span style="background-color:#ffff00;">y</span> other metal target, then I would say the Eldorado has an advantage." </EM>Can you explain just how the Eldorado would have the advantage?"</STRONG>.... Sure. Note that I was referring to a site with relatively smooth or level ground and there is little, if any, nearby trash. Then, depending upon the model in use and other conditions, I might hunt in a silent-search motion discriminate mode. If I hunt in a Disc. mode in a low-target site, especially if mineralized, I will do so with an all metal accept setting. That means with what Tesoro refers to as an ED-180 discriminate mode.
I have found, after using all the Tej
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different in that the El Dorado is VCO (correct me if I'm wrong Monte). But I would prefer to hunt all metal with a non VCO as in the Bandido II uMax (I like the subtle definition of a non VCO all metal mode). That is the biggest reason, besides not needing a frequency shift, that I pursued and eventually found my older but NIB Bandido II uMax. Just my two corroded zincs worth.............
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The Tejon has a hotter transmitter oscillator than all prior Tesoro units according to the literature. I wonder if that caused the excessive noise in this case.