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The Big question? Quattro or Exp 2

Explorer vs Quatro continued- Mike often posts pictures of his gold finds on the forum, so I think he'd be able to back this up, but I've ran my Quatro over some gold rings and had "no problem" picking up a good signal on them. HOWEVER,,,,,,I would concur with Mike that you really need to run in all metal if your looking for gold, because it comes in at different numbers on the numeric scale. From things I've read, if you really want a gold machine that'll find tiny nuggets, you probably need to go to a "gold specific" type machine, wheich Minelab happens to be in the forefront of, in my opinion. They "ain't cheap", but from what I've read, they'll do the job. Getting back to the different tone issue, someone said, they didn't like the Quatro because it wouldn't differentiate between the differnt tones. Not totally true. "I think" the Explorer has more variety of tone differentiation, but I know that you can "cross save" two different tones on the Quatro, either conductive or ferrous, and they are totally different tones as far as pitch is concerned. One is higher pitehed than the other, but if you want to learn how to do this you need to get Andy Sabisch's book on the Quatro. He goes into it extensivly. I do realize that the Exoplorer has two different numeric readouts: i.e. conductive and ferrrous whereas the Quatro only has one, but I think the Quatro kind of combines the ferrous and the conductive into one number. Not totally sure about that, but I think that's the case. At any rate, (getting back to Black Davy's original questions), since, Blacy Davy said, the learning curve wasn't an issue, I'd say if you want the extra info on the numeric readout, probably a faster sweep speed without any accuracy drop, (what I mean here is the Quatro has a setting where you can sweep faster but they say you lose a little accuracy), however, I've never had a problem with the sweep speed on the Quatro. If you hit something that is questionable, just go over that spot slower and more carefully at differnt angles and you'll probably nail it. and if you really think you need that backlight instead of a lighted headband whis is much brighter anyway, then go to the Explorer, but if you want a dynamite, totally notchable, discriminating, deep depth finding, quiet, salt water, mineralization, noise eliminating, very solid machine, then buy a Quatro.
 
Digger, now that I've jumped all over you on certain things, please don't take this personally, I really mean it in a friendly way, I'm dying to know??? Did you detect the grounds around this house and if so , what did you find???? Beach Guy.
 
Right on James 1969. I'm with you bro. I really agree, this thing's not just a tri-cycle. It's a very valid, deep seeking, mineralization elemaniting, accurate, totally notichable, discriminating, kick ass machine. I own one, and I'll bet others would back me up on these statements. Yes the Explorer has two numeric readouts, but when the rubber hits the road, they're not gonna convince me that the Qutro is a lame unit. It's a very kick ass, competetive piece of equipment. Beach Guy.
 
Mike, from Virginia Beach. Where are you bro. We need your input on this one, because you owned both machines. If I'm wrong here, let me know, because I relly believe you have the "fruit on the tree" so to speak on these two units.
 
I totally agree Beachguy777. The quattro is the deepest most accurate detector I have ever owned also. Never swung an EXII but I can tell you I have absolutly no regrets getting the Quattro. And no plans of upgrading or should I say sidestepping to the EXII. But I will be getting an exterra50 for a back up machine because I do feel a single frequency machine does fill a certain need. And I have alot of faith in Minelab products.
 
...and as somebody who has been very successful with both machines, I believe I am qualified to say that.

There ARE things that the Explorer II (my current main land machine) is good for and one of them is "tweaking" and multi-configurability. But this "plus" is also a "minus" in some people's minds...the fact that it's TOO complicated. I personally don't feel that way. But I have to hand it to Minelab for taking the hi-tech performance of FBS technology and putting it in the hands of folks who wanted a little simpler machine. But I will also say that does NOT translate into weaker performance.

The Quattro is one deep machine. And FYI, it goes DEEPER on the beach than the Explorer II. And the Excalibur. And the CZ-70. I know because I have them all and have hunted with them all on the beach. And furthermore, the Quattro has NEWER software than the Explorer II. Not to say that Minelab has programmed a few new tricks into the Quattro, but it's entirely possible. What it doesn't have are as many settings and adjustments. But it has the legendary FBS processing and depth. And it has adjustable sensitivity, so you can take it out of Auto and crank it up to 17 or 18 on the 20 scale and dig targets as deep as you want to ever dig with it.

What it does different is that it has a slower recovery speed. So you have to move a little slower with it. But it locks on better to deep targets than the Explorer many times. It has a "linear" notch system, classifying all metal targets from -10 to +40, with +38 being a quarter for example. So that's completely different. And a refreshingly easier display system for many. Though I DO like the dual-digital of the Explorer II. Both machines have their pluses and minuses, but to say the Quattro is a "newbie", "weenie", or any other loser-descriptive term you may apply to it is just plain wrong. :nono: And to do so based on heresay or supposition without having ever actually held one or hunting with one is a heck of a jump. :shrug: I have gone to several "hunted out" sites that have been hammered for years with other machines, by me and by other people, with the Quattro and found more good stuff...coins, bullets, buttons, etc. Not a great deal, but SOME. And I have then hit those same places with the Explorer II and found NOTHING is some cases and SOME THINGS in other cases. So the two are very close in performance for land hunting, though I will give the nod to the Explorer II for "tweakability" and a better ability to work in trashy spots due to it's faster recovery time and configurability.

Lastly, I don't think coming to the Quattro forum and bashing the very machine that people come here to talk about is a very neighborly thing to do. But that's just my opinion. Everything else is based on my hands-on experiences.

BEACHGUY, did I cover it? ;)
 
Thankyou Mike. You saved the day, and as usual, very eloquently. I knew that you used to have the Quatro and currently own the Explorer, and with all of your successes in hunting with both machines, I knew you were the "man for the job" here. Thanks again, Mike, for defending what I think are truly two terrific piece of equipment, the Explorer and the Quatro.:geek::O:yo::geek::O
 
Hey, whatever I can do to help out.

Thing is, I can see where he might draw that conclusion, based on biases inferred from available facts and without actually TRYING one. Had I not had the experience of learning the Quattro and hunting with it and THEN doing the same with the Explorer II I would have probably thought the same thing. Such is just not the case. :shrug:
 
Yes, I agree with your comments, Mike, Marc, etc. Thank you for your valueable imput on the Quattro. It IS a dynamite machine in many respects. You said it all very nicely!
Angela:)
 
Beach Guy....I did not hunt this house it is out of my archive of collected pictures I like. I am not not going to stop sending pic's with my posts but am going to mention right off if the are mine or someone elses. Sorry , I did not mean to be misleading.....I often wonder myself what he found there!
PS.. No hard feelings about the Quattro feedback. I guess I was a bit out of bounds and did not mean to cut anybody down for buying one. Inprovements though what maybe in the Quattro should have been in my belief held back till the Explorer3 and then Minelab schould have dropped the price of the Explorer11 to that of the Quattro, so as not to reverse machine a product that has less function than its predecessor. Sorry if I offended anyone! John
 
No problem. All I can do is tell it like I know it. I went from the Quattro to the Explorer II because I was afraid of what I might be missing and found that I wasn't missing much. I also found that I liked a few things about the Explorer II better. Being a computer geek by trade as well as having a hopped up Mustang, I like "tweaking" stuff. And unlike many who seem to be bonkers about the Samrtfind display (which IS cool), I like the dual-digital a lot.

I also would love to know what that guy found at that house...that looks like a metal detecting wet dream to me!

HH!
 
But an easier to use machine. They are subject to complaints & suggestions just like the other detector manufactures such as Fisher, Tesoro, Garrett. Look at Fisher's ID Excel & ID Edge, to me they are just a cheaper version of the Coinstrike, which they are, but they are also a might easier to use.

I'm sure Minelab was feelin the heat for a small light weight turn on and go machine that was mid priced and more affordable to the mass public, so what did they do, they came out with the Xterra 50 & 30.

Now, if I thought for a minute that the Explorer was the holy grail of detectors and was going to find me that pot of gold, I would gladly sell my 4 detectors and buy one, but I don't like complicated machines that I have to fiddle with programs and all that before I can start hunting. I have determined after being skunked by guys hunting with low priced Bounty Hunters & Garretts that it aint the machine, it's the person using it and how lucky they are. Yes, I believe in luck. Some create their own luck and some are born lucky.

I too appologize if I was out of line in anyway!

Happy hunting,
Mike
 
Did I miss the party? :starwars: After reading what was said about the Q, I wanted to post but glad to see all your posts correcting wrong impressions about the Quattro.:wiggle:
Let's go back to talking :detecting:
 
B.Ratny, I am looking at the XT30/50 too as it looks like a fun unit to use. Not brand loyal but I find that I now own two :minelab: as they do make good units.
 
Hey Doug,what's the detecting like in the Philippines?,I was in Cagayan de Oro last september and will be returning in April,is detecting allowed and where can I buy a detector there?
Are you after Yamashitas Gold?
 
Hi James,
Yamash(i)ta who? :shrug: That's what people say when they see me in action but the kids know I am really after the pulltabs as they see me putting them in my pouch and they go around finding more pulltabs for me :) The only detectors available locally are RadioShack models made by Bounty Hunter - I think I saw a Discovery 2000 there one time.
Cagayan (CDO) is a nice & peaceful place in Mindanao. Next time you come over by Manila look me up and I can show you where they hanged Gen.Yamash(i)ta and Gen.Homma. For :twodetecting: Shoot me a private mail.
 
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