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The impact of using ID NORM

Andy Sabisch

Active member
The ID NORM function simply applies the 18 kHz value to all frequencies . . . it does not generate a different value that requires testing that has been posted here before. Some people have asked if this is a new circuit - no - it is simply removing the way targets tend to read higher at higher frequencies although there is value in this when identifying rusted iron.

There have been several posts listing TID values - look at some of the early posts on this forum - and there have been no changes to what the TID values are for specific targets at different frequencies. So if you pull up those earlier posts you will have the TID's that appear with this option active . . . . here is one such posts from last year

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?83,1670876

Hate to see a bunch of testing done and postings made when the information has been posted before under V2.0

Andy
 
Question: If those earlier test were done with a different feq. than 18 would there not be a difference?

While we are on the subject were the different TID numbers in V2 by design and if so what are the pro and cons of using ID Norm?
 
j piddle said:
Question: If those earlier test were done with a different feq. than 18 would there not be a difference?

While we are on the subject were the different TID numbers in V2 by design and if so what are the pro and cons of using ID Norm?

The earlier tests that were posted included the TID values from all 4 frequencies so you could see what say a dime registered in 4, 8, 12 and 18 kHz. If you use the ID NORM function, any frequency will display the 18 kHz value

As far as what benfit the varying TIDs produced, the biggest is in identifying iron. If you create and save two identical programs in adjacent slots, you can toggle between them using the <+> and <-> touchpads. If you get a reading when hunting in the 18 or 12 kHz frequency, toggle to the same program you saved but in 8 kHz and watch the TID. A reading that was in the mid to upper 90's will drop if it is a coin yet hold if it is iron . . . a little practice on IN GROUND targets will show how this can be used.

On the other hand, if you do not want to have to remember a bunch of different TID values, then go for the ID NORM and the difference is removed . . .

Hope this helps

Andy
 
Andy Sabisch said:
As far as what benefot the varying TIDs produced, the biggest is in identifying iron. If you create and save two identical programs in adjacent slots, you can toggle between them using the <+> and <-> touchpads. If you get a reading when hunting in the 18 or 12 kHz frequency, toggle to the same program you saved but in 8 kHz and watch the TID. A reading that was in the mid to upper 90's will drop noticeably if it is a coin yet hold if it is iron

Thanks for clarifying this. NOW I get what you meant in an earlier post when you said changing freq could help ID iron. Makes perfect sense. I've never tried this with the Deus, but definitely will this weekend.
Rich
 
Andy Sabisch said:
The ID NORM function simply applies the 18 kHz value to all frequencies . . . Andy

Does this mean that the Deus is scanning 2 frequencies at the same time but can only display 1 frequency at a time?
 
Diggler said:
Andy Sabisch said:
The ID NORM function simply applies the 18 kHz value to all frequencies . . . Andy

Does this mean that the Deus is scanning 2 frequencies at the same time but can only display 1 frequency at a time?

No. All it means is that the VDI number for say a dime at frequency 4, 8, & 12 will register the same VDI number as a dime would at frequency 18. Just less numbers you have to remember/memorize. Whites does this with their detectors to make them "user friendly". Now XP is oferring it to you.
 
Andy I went into options, PROFILE does not show up only:

CONFIGURATION
PROGRAMS
COILS

What page of new manual would pertain to this?

Thanks
 
Andy Sabisch said:
Frank in NH said:

Click on OPTIONS >>> PROFILE >>> ID NORM >>> YES


[size=large]Pays to check what you type sometimes . . . . forgot the CONFIGURATION as others noticed[/size] :stars:


[size=large]Anyone believe I was just checking if people were paying attention to the post????[/size] :surrender:
 
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