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THE REPORTS ARE IN - THE AT PRO IS THE MOST AWESOME DETECTOR EVER BUILT...
- Thread starter Uncle Willy
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SteveP(NH)
New member
When I tried the 1280 I found that it couldn't hit targets that my Minelab Explorer XS could ring in loud and clear. I admit that I was using a borrowed 1280 and so didn't have a lot of time on it, but the XS could find targets that the 1280 remained silent on while the XS dinged on every target that the 1280 found. To bad that XS was so heavy or I would still be using it at the beach - I switched to a DFX due to its better balance, and lower weight. If the AT-Pro does turn out to be a good salt water beach machine (which I will be testing for myself in early November) then I will sell my DFX.
The issue is really salt water beaches with black sand because a single frequency machine can't adjust to both salt water response and black sand at the same time because no matter what you balance the machine to, the other one is going to cause falsing and reduced depth.
In any case when I go beach detecting, almost everyone else I see detecting is using a multi-frequency machine. When you go to a beach, for example say Hampton Beach, NH you will likely see 20+ other detectorists there and almost all of them are using multi-frequency machines - that speaks volumes about what works the best at that beach.
I don't think multi-frequency machines are best for all types of hunting as my main inland machine is currently a Fisher F75 (single frequency at 13 Khz) but multi-frequency machines can't be beat at the salt water beaches in northern Mass, NH and southern Maine beaches.
However, my main question which none of you guys claiming the AT Pro is going to be a good beach machine has answered, is if Garrett thinks the AT Pro is going to be a good salt water beach hunter, how come they don't mention it at all in their advertising glossy that is posted on all of the dealer sites now? That would be a great selling point and if it worked at the salt water beaches without the problems single frequency machines current exhibit you would think that they would list that as a key selling point yet they don't.
It looks to me like the AT Pro is going to be a great relic hunting machine and that is all I am going to ask mine to do once my pre-ordered machine arrives. The huge expectations being put on this machine are not reasonable and anyone who buys into all of the hyperbole being spun is sure to be disappointed.
The issue is really salt water beaches with black sand because a single frequency machine can't adjust to both salt water response and black sand at the same time because no matter what you balance the machine to, the other one is going to cause falsing and reduced depth.
In any case when I go beach detecting, almost everyone else I see detecting is using a multi-frequency machine. When you go to a beach, for example say Hampton Beach, NH you will likely see 20+ other detectorists there and almost all of them are using multi-frequency machines - that speaks volumes about what works the best at that beach.
I don't think multi-frequency machines are best for all types of hunting as my main inland machine is currently a Fisher F75 (single frequency at 13 Khz) but multi-frequency machines can't be beat at the salt water beaches in northern Mass, NH and southern Maine beaches.
However, my main question which none of you guys claiming the AT Pro is going to be a good beach machine has answered, is if Garrett thinks the AT Pro is going to be a good salt water beach hunter, how come they don't mention it at all in their advertising glossy that is posted on all of the dealer sites now? That would be a great selling point and if it worked at the salt water beaches without the problems single frequency machines current exhibit you would think that they would list that as a key selling point yet they don't.
It looks to me like the AT Pro is going to be a great relic hunting machine and that is all I am going to ask mine to do once my pre-ordered machine arrives. The huge expectations being put on this machine are not reasonable and anyone who buys into all of the hyperbole being spun is sure to be disappointed.
I would never part with my GTI 2500. Imaging "ROCKS!" Adding the AT pro to my arsenal, pretty well covers all the basis.
garrettlover
New member
I doubt whether or not it's good in salt water will matter too much.I expect that beach hunters are probably around 5% of detectorists who actually buy detectors.But I think it will be a great all around detector.Like John I won't get rid of my 1500 or 2500 ever,but it will make a great backup detector for all purpose use.
Tony in FL
Member
garrettlover said:
You are joking - right? This is one of the most asked questions I have heard coming up in forums. I suspect how well this detector handles wet sand and and salt water at the beach could make or break the sale to a large number of beach hunters.
kwdstalker
New member
its going to be hard to dethrone the at pro and pro-pointer for the money. even if its half what they say it can do.
Yeah! I dont know where the figure of 5% comes from, but I agree with Tony in FL insofar as the question on how the AT Pro will handle salt water conditions is probably the most frequently asked question by serious hunters. Whether or not the answer to that question will make or break a lot of sales to those detectorists, I dont know. I'm sure some will buy, just to find out for themselves, either way...then if it doesn't surpass the ability of some current saltwater detectors, then the owner still has a good all-round machine that can be used on days when rain is threatening. A lot of people will buy it simply because it is new and different (by all reports so far). Time will tell, and it will be very much a matter of wait and see as far as salt water detecting is concerned. I cant see it outstripping some of the current PI machines for depth and the ability to handle salt water and black sand.
Pyledriver
Active member
Lots of excitement over speculation! I bet there will be some saltwater hunters that will have no problems with the AT, others will. It's the difference in location. I bet some folks will hate the AT and some folks will love it. I bet there will be more arguing over speculation before we all get our hands on one to see how it works for US in OUR locations with OUR particular detecting needs. I bet the 'specialized' detectors will still be best in their special niches. I bet the AT will do a fine job at giving it's users the ability to do a little of all that detecting has to offer. Once tried, I bet those others may decide to specialize in certain areas with certain machines. I KNOW the AT Pro will be a MASSIVE homerun for Garrett. I bet other manufacturers said a loud, collective 'holy SH**' when they saw this detector! In fact, I bet when I get my hands on one I'll find some really cool stuff that I didn't have access to before. What do you want to bet?
Is it November yet?
Is it November yet?
Pyledriver said:Lots of excitement over speculation! I bet there will be some saltwater hunters that will have no problems with the AT, others will. It's the difference in location. I bet some folks will hate the AT and some folks will love it. I bet there will be more arguing over speculation before we all get our hands on one to see how it works for US in OUR locations with OUR particular detecting needs. I bet the 'specialized' detectors will still be best in their special niches. I bet the AT will do a fine job at giving it's users the ability to do a little of all that detecting has to offer. Once tried, I bet those others may decide to specialize in certain areas with certain machines. I KNOW the AT Pro will be a MASSIVE homerun for Garrett. I bet other manufacturers said a loud, collective 'holy SH**' when they saw this detector! In fact, I bet when I get my hands on one I'll find some really cool stuff that I didn't have access to before. What do you want to bet?
Is it November yet?
I'll bet you're right
Thread title leaves some awfully large shoes to fill....Smitty
WOW. I think a dedicated water machine that costs $1000 or more should perform better in its designed enviroment than a $600 all terain machine.
That doesn't mean the AT is a lesser machine to me. And while there are many salt water hunters (including me), I would guess the majority of TH'ers probably live inland and rarely if ever will see saltwater. Just my opinion!
Good Luck
That doesn't mean the AT is a lesser machine to me. And while there are many salt water hunters (including me), I would guess the majority of TH'ers probably live inland and rarely if ever will see saltwater. Just my opinion!
Good Luck
"When I tried the 1280 I found that it couldn't hit targets that my Minelab Explorer XS could ring in loud and clear. I admit that I was using a borrowed 1280 and so didn't have a lot of time on it, but the XS could find targets that the 1280 remained silent on while the XS dinged on every target that the 1280 found. To bad that XS was so heavy or I would still be using it at the beach - I switched to a DFX due to its better balance, and lower weight. If the AT-Pro does turn out to be a good salt water beach machine (which I will be testing for myself in early November) then I will sell my DFX.
The issue is really salt water beaches with black sand because a single frequency machine can't adjust to both salt water response and black sand at the same time because no matter what you balance the machine to, the other one is going to cause falsing and reduced depth.
In any case when I go beach detecting, almost everyone else I see detecting is using a multi-frequency machine. When you go to a beach, for example say Hampton Beach, NH you will likely see 20+ other detectorists there and almost all of them are using multi-frequency machines - that speaks volumes about what works the best at that beach.
I don't think multi-frequency machines are best for all types of hunting as my main inland machine is currently a Fisher F75 (single frequency at 13 Khz) but multi-frequency machines can't be beat at the salt water beaches in northern Mass, NH and southern Maine beaches.
However, my main question which none of you guys claiming the AT Pro is going to be a good beach machine has answered, is if Garrett thinks the AT Pro is going to be a good salt water beach hunter, how come they don't mention it at all in their advertising glossy that is posted on all of the dealer sites now? That would be a great selling point and if it worked at the salt water beaches without the problems single frequency machines current exhibit you would think that they would list that as a key selling point yet they don't.
It looks to me like the AT Pro is going to be a great relic hunting machine and that is all I am going to ask mine to do once my pre-ordered machine arrives. The huge expectations being put on this machine are not reasonable and anyone who buys into all of the hyperbole being spun is sure to be disappointed. "
I couldn't agree more !!......As I said in an earlier thread , this is a single frequency machine and there is no way that it will excel on a Saltwater beach in wet sand that almost always has Black sand ....... I'm looking at this machine to be a good machine at everything EXCEPT SALTWATER and WET SALTWATER SAND ....If it works at all , it will work with minimul depth running low sensitivity on wet Saltwater sand ...... It's great that Garrett has made a metered machine to go 10 ft deep in freshwater however .....For this I applaud them !!....
......JIm
The issue is really salt water beaches with black sand because a single frequency machine can't adjust to both salt water response and black sand at the same time because no matter what you balance the machine to, the other one is going to cause falsing and reduced depth.
In any case when I go beach detecting, almost everyone else I see detecting is using a multi-frequency machine. When you go to a beach, for example say Hampton Beach, NH you will likely see 20+ other detectorists there and almost all of them are using multi-frequency machines - that speaks volumes about what works the best at that beach.
I don't think multi-frequency machines are best for all types of hunting as my main inland machine is currently a Fisher F75 (single frequency at 13 Khz) but multi-frequency machines can't be beat at the salt water beaches in northern Mass, NH and southern Maine beaches.
However, my main question which none of you guys claiming the AT Pro is going to be a good beach machine has answered, is if Garrett thinks the AT Pro is going to be a good salt water beach hunter, how come they don't mention it at all in their advertising glossy that is posted on all of the dealer sites now? That would be a great selling point and if it worked at the salt water beaches without the problems single frequency machines current exhibit you would think that they would list that as a key selling point yet they don't.
It looks to me like the AT Pro is going to be a great relic hunting machine and that is all I am going to ask mine to do once my pre-ordered machine arrives. The huge expectations being put on this machine are not reasonable and anyone who buys into all of the hyperbole being spun is sure to be disappointed. "
I couldn't agree more !!......As I said in an earlier thread , this is a single frequency machine and there is no way that it will excel on a Saltwater beach in wet sand that almost always has Black sand ....... I'm looking at this machine to be a good machine at everything EXCEPT SALTWATER and WET SALTWATER SAND ....If it works at all , it will work with minimul depth running low sensitivity on wet Saltwater sand ...... It's great that Garrett has made a metered machine to go 10 ft deep in freshwater however .....For this I applaud them !!....
......JIm
Fisher 1280 and the DetectorPro's both run at 2.4 kHz. Both make some claim to salt beaches. Being a low frequency should be less sensitive to gold. So the 15 kHz of the ATpro should hit harder on these smaller gold targets. Plus being new technology it just might do the job on wet salt pretty good...
kwdstalker
New member
We hunt parks, old home sites, lakes, and Oregon Trail so this will be what the doctor ordered for us. I use the gti 2500 now but it might be a backup for the pro next year.