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Tinfoil or someone f75 verses the explorer?
- Thread starter markg
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Nebraska Ray
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Chris(SoCenWI)
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And pretty much always use my XS. I bought the Fisher because it was touted as having a much faster response. I was really hoping to pull more coins out of my worked over sites. Pretty confident now that increased speed doesn't mean that much, especially in really trashy areas.
The Fisher certainly is easier to swing. Wins on weight and balance.
It is very sensitive to small objects. Dug a lot of .22 shorts and slugs with it. I'm not sure that the explorer doesn't see these, perhaps they show up in "NO DIG" land on the smart screen.
But...
As many have posted it absolutely loves crown caps. Some people say they can tell them apart but I tried their techniques and don't feel they are close to 100%. And not just crown caps, any round flat iron. As far as big deep iron falsing it is about the same as the explorer.
Where the explorer wins hands down is by having the 2 dimensional screen for TID. When you have a coin mixed with iron the explorer will hit upper left. And bounce around to upper right. You get a bounce with the F-75 but it is only a single number, so could bounce between pull tab and zinc or much further and you really never can guess what you have under the coil. The TID is fairly accurate for shallow stuff or where there isn't much trash but I never detect in those conditions. They say you need to swing wide and fast over a target to get a good ID, but in trash you can't do this and I've found the "minelab" wiggle right over the target gives the best response. The people that seem to like the F-75 the most tend to be relic hunters and they will often run in two tone mode; iron is low and everything else is high and dig all high tones. It does have 3 and four tone modes that map certain values(like nickels) to high tones, but when they bounce it's kind of worthless. Why Minelab moved in this direction with the ETRAC totally floors me.
As far as EMI they are closely matched. If I have to decrease sensitivity on one I'll have to do it on the other. And they seem quite equally matched as far as being able to see a target depth wise. I do like the auto ground balance on the explorer.
Basically it comes down to the ID system. I suspect when Minelab's patent on the 2D screen expires all metal detectors will have something similar.
I am interested in trying the F-75 LTD some day. I hear the ID is even worse than the F-75 in super duper mode, but what interests me is they say you can have the coil quite far off the ground and still detect. I know of a lot of sites that have tall grass that I would like to try. I've found that the explorers really loose depth unless the coil is right on the ground.
Chris
The Fisher certainly is easier to swing. Wins on weight and balance.
It is very sensitive to small objects. Dug a lot of .22 shorts and slugs with it. I'm not sure that the explorer doesn't see these, perhaps they show up in "NO DIG" land on the smart screen.
But...
As many have posted it absolutely loves crown caps. Some people say they can tell them apart but I tried their techniques and don't feel they are close to 100%. And not just crown caps, any round flat iron. As far as big deep iron falsing it is about the same as the explorer.
Where the explorer wins hands down is by having the 2 dimensional screen for TID. When you have a coin mixed with iron the explorer will hit upper left. And bounce around to upper right. You get a bounce with the F-75 but it is only a single number, so could bounce between pull tab and zinc or much further and you really never can guess what you have under the coil. The TID is fairly accurate for shallow stuff or where there isn't much trash but I never detect in those conditions. They say you need to swing wide and fast over a target to get a good ID, but in trash you can't do this and I've found the "minelab" wiggle right over the target gives the best response. The people that seem to like the F-75 the most tend to be relic hunters and they will often run in two tone mode; iron is low and everything else is high and dig all high tones. It does have 3 and four tone modes that map certain values(like nickels) to high tones, but when they bounce it's kind of worthless. Why Minelab moved in this direction with the ETRAC totally floors me.
As far as EMI they are closely matched. If I have to decrease sensitivity on one I'll have to do it on the other. And they seem quite equally matched as far as being able to see a target depth wise. I do like the auto ground balance on the explorer.
Basically it comes down to the ID system. I suspect when Minelab's patent on the 2D screen expires all metal detectors will have something similar.
I am interested in trying the F-75 LTD some day. I hear the ID is even worse than the F-75 in super duper mode, but what interests me is they say you can have the coil quite far off the ground and still detect. I know of a lot of sites that have tall grass that I would like to try. I've found that the explorers really loose depth unless the coil is right on the ground.
Chris
digginrebel
New member
Like others have said - I own both machines and use the Explorer more than the 75. I like the 75, but the Explorer just gives me so much more info. I also love the threshold sound, not a silent machine.