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Tired of digging can slaw and some other trash with HF2 coil. Looking for gold rings ?

Looked to me like about a 5-point rise in the ring using MIONO as opposed to General with the stock coil? Pretty sure I saw 55 in MOINO and 50 in General.

I haven't been able to get the HF2 coil anyway, but just saying.
One thing folks may experience with 9” and 11” LF coils. Be worse with 11” coil imo.
Shallower targets expect to see some ID fluctuation. Coil size will drive. Hf 2 coil due to size ID will fluctuate far less.
Lifting coil slightly could help here with the bigger LF coils.
Or shorten sweep a lot over target.
Fluctuating ID when sweeping with LF coils could also be sign of a masker. Might be hard to hear with sudio even using full tones offset st 5-10.
Here’s where the hf 2 does extremely well. Using 88.3 kHz full tones high chance user will hear the masker in the audio. When checking a suspect target.
 
Just saw this video of nugget testing Manticore looks like it won to me
 
I don’t post here much anymore.
I will post links below to all the videos I hav done testing this.
Hi David,
You have done a lot of work to produce these videos and I think that there may be other target combinations that change or don't change target IDs using the HF2 coil with different frequencies for target recognition since the HF2 coil combined with Deus 2 does not have normalized target IDs. Even Deus 2 with the original FMF coils have some target ID variation which you have shown in your past videos but not as much as the gold vs canslaw target ID differences you have been noting in your recent static and wild target detecting videos.

A similar technique could be used on Deus 1 when the HF coils came out using adjacent programs set to different high frequencies since the HF coil target IDs could not be normalized either.

I hunt for gold jewelry a lot, like at least 2 to 3 hunts a week. I end up with something gold at least once a month sometimes more. This year has been a little slow but I missed a couple of months due to a family illness.

I hunt with the 11" FMF coil most of the time because I want more coverage and depth. I have used the HF2 coil a couple of times for large area gold jewelry hunting but that is not something I would do often so respectfully, your method would not be of interest to me. Sure I sometimes dig can slaw that sounds really good and has the right gold range target IDs using the FMF 11" coil, like today when I was hunting a soccer field and was mostly concentrating on the audio responses produced by US nickels. I dug 17 nickels, 3 pieces of canslaw and one oval pull tab......no gold rings unfortunately.

Most of the time using Deus 2 and the FMF 11" coil, I can consistently distinguish a US nickel from a similar tone and target ID pull tab. The gold rings I find also have more similar audio characteristics to US nickels than they do to undamaged pull tabs. Attached is a short 30 second video I made back in early 2024 kind of demonstrating this. I wish I had recorded the audio from XP headphones instead of the remote external speaker which you also have noted, does not have the same sound quality as the XP headphones. See if you can hear a slight difference between the target's audio qualities? The targets under the gold pans that have highly iron mineralized dirt in them are an oval pull tab, gold ring and US nickel. See if you can put them in the right order from left to right.

I can hear this difference or at least the audio quality I listen for on gold rings in some of your recent videos too. Others have mentioned this ability of Deus 2's audio nuances on other forums in reply to some of your posts and you have dismissed that possibility. I can assure you that the difference is learnable by most people. It just takes practice and not just on static targets but also on lots wild targets.

Unfortunately, random shaped canslaw that has similar target IDs and audio pitches to US nickels and gold rings is not easy to to distinguish by audio except when it is very close to the surface. It can have a very brassy , distorted audio near the surface and nickels and gold rings just don't sound like that from my experience.

As far as saving time, I actually carry my digging tool (usually a long flat bladed screwdriver) and my pinpointer in one hand and swing with the other. Using the FMF 11" coil I don't have to investigate the target for long at all if I am listening for a nickel vs gold ring vs undamaged pull tab. I just takes a couple of seconds, a quick look at the target ID stability and I am digging or not. A surface to 6" deep US nickel takes me less than a minute from start to finish.

I am really enjoying the HF2 coil with Pitch 2 audio for bark, sand and gravel playgrounds and volleyball courts. Using Pitch 2 audio at 53kHz is dig it all but it has really paid off so far.

XP really improved FMF Goldfield's hot ground handling and sensitivity combined with the HF2 coil and Pitch2.

Your work on these videos helps anyone that wants to really learn the intricacies of Deus 2 and the new HF2 coil. Thanks for doing them.

Confirmed gold targets found since January 2025 on land. No fresh or saltwater beach hunting.

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Short Deus 2 Low Conductor Audio Test video

 
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Hi David,
You have done a lot of work to produce these videos and I think that there may be other target combinations that change or don't change target IDs using the HF2 coil with different frequencies for target recognition since the HF2 coil combined with Deus 2 does not have normalized target IDs. Even Deus 2 with the original FMF coils have some target ID variation which you have shown in your past videos but not as much as the gold vs canslaw target ID differences you have been noting in your recent static and wild target detecting videos.

A similar technique could be used on Deus 1 when the HF coils came out using adjacent programs set to different high frequencies since the HF coil target IDs could not be normalized either.

I hunt for gold jewelry a lot, like at least 2 to 3 hunts a week. I end up with something gold at least once a month sometimes more. This year has been a little slow but I missed a couple of months due to a family illness.

I hunt with the 11" FMF coil most of the time because I want more coverage and depth. I have used the HF2 coil a couple of times for large area gold jewelry hunting but that is not something I would do often so respectfully, your method would not be of interest to me. Sure I sometimes dig can slaw that sounds really good and has the right gold range target IDs using the FMF 11" coil, like today when I was hunting a soccer field and was mostly concentrating on the audio responses produced by US nickels. I dug 17 nickels, 3 pieces of canslaw and one oval pull tab......no gold rings unfortunately.

Most of the time using Deus 2 and the FMF 11" coil, I can consistently distinguish a US nickel from a similar tone and target ID pull tab. The gold rings I find also have more similar audio characteristics to US nickels than they do to undamaged pull tabs. Attached is a short 30 second video I made back in early 2024 kind of demonstrating this. I wish I had recorded the audio from XP headphones instead of the remote external speaker which you also have noted, does not have the same sound quality as the XP headphones. See if you can hear a slight difference between the target's audio qualities? The targets under the gold pans that have highly iron mineralized dirt in them are an oval pull tab, gold ring and US nickel. See if you can put them in the right order from left to right.

I can hear this difference or at least the audio quality I listen for on gold rings in some of your recent videos too. Others have mentioned this ability of Deus 2's audio nuances on other forums in reply to some of your posts and you have dismissed that possibility. I can assure you that the difference is learnable by most people. It just takes practice and not just on static targets but also on lots wild targets.

Unfortunately, random shaped canslaw that has similar target IDs and audio pitches to US nickels and gold rings is not easy to to distinguish by audio except when it is very close to the surface. It can have a very brassy , distorted audio near the surface and nickels and gold rings just don't sound like that from my experience.

As far as saving time, I actually carry my digging tool (usually a long flat bladed screwdriver) and my pinpointer in one hand and swing with the other. Using the FMF 11" coil I don't have to investigate the target for long at all if I am listening for a nickel vs gold ring vs undamaged pull tab. I just takes a couple of seconds, a quick look at the target ID stability and I am digging or not. A surface to 6" deep US nickel takes me less than a minute from start to finish.

I am really enjoying the HF2 coil with Pitch 2 audio for bark, sand and gravel playgrounds and volleyball courts. Using Pitch 2 audio at 53kHz is dig it all but it has really paid off so far.

XP really improved FMF Goldfield's hot ground handling and sensitivity combined with the HF2 coil and Pitch2.

Your work on these videos helps anyone that wants to really learn the intricacies of Deus 2 and the new HF2 coil. Thanks for doing them.

Confirmed gold targets found since January 2025 on land. No fresh or saltwater beach hunting.

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Short Deus 2 Low Conductor Audio Test video


I haven’t blown anyone off. What I have said is it’s tough to get right all the time with audio nuance. Deus 2 nuance better than Manticore imo. Some folks think they can tell using Manticre and be spot on most of the time.
Where’s their video to support this exactly.. talk is cheap in my book!

I like this system with hf2 coil. One gets to use MF only if they wish. I do check some tsrgrte throwing in single freq ops (higher) some times to confirm my hunch.

Speaking of which.
Here’s video of AI generated listing concerning Deus 2 hf2 coil.
 
I haven’t blown anyone off. What I have said is it’s tough to get right all the time with audio nuance. Deus 2 nuance better than Manticore imo. Some folks think they can tell using Manticre and be spot on most of the time.
Where’s their video to support this exactly.. talk is cheap in my book!

I like this system with hf2 coil. One gets to use MF only if they wish. I do check some tsrgrte throwing in single freq ops (higher) some times to confirm my hunch.

Speaking of which.
Here’s video of AI generated listing concerning Deus 2 hf2 coil.
Audio nuance is more dependable where I detect in higher iron mineralization. The method you are demonstrating is affected too much by the magnetite mineralization here and target ideas can vary even on can slaw when switching between 29, 53 and 89 kHz max frequency. The shift is around 5 target IDs for canslaw, pull tabs, nickels and the gold rings I have tested using your method. IDs shift even more on all of those targets using single frequency.

Your videos show this method working, no doubt about it . I wish it worked dependably here. It just doesn’t. You mentioned that possibility in one of your videos.
 
Audio nuance is more dependable where I detect in higher iron mineralization. The method you are demonstrating is affected too much by the magnetite mineralization here and target ideas can vary even on can slaw when switching between 29, 53 and 89 kHz max frequency. The shift is around 5 target IDs for canslaw, pull tabs, nickels and the gold rings I have tested using your method. IDs shift even more on all of those targets using single frequency.

Your videos show this method working, no doubt about it . I wish it worked dependably here. It just doesn’t. You mentioned that possibility in one of your videos.
You are the first to give data on this process I have shown on higher mineralized ground.
Thanks for sharing.
 
I hunt with the D2 and the 9" FMF and feel happy with my odds of gold. By far, most of the gold I find is 3" or less. At that depth in Fast 40 I can hear any iron buzz and know it is most likely junk. I have checked my results with listening for the iron buzz and have yet to find any gold that wasn't a clean sound.
 
You are the first to give data on this process I have shown on higher mineralized ground.
Thanks for sharing.
I gave data because I tested your method extensively and I respect your work.

Plus, I like to find gold more than I like to find canslaw.

I am still a member of another public forum but I don’t post there anymore because many of the responders are simply rude, argue till their egos are satisfied and are unfriendly. But I sometimes follow the goings on over there if something interests me. Still as unfriendly as ever.

I have got US nickels, similar sounding gold rings and how they sound different from most undamaged pull tabs and pull rings down enough to easily call them. I have dug enough nickels and pull tabs since Multi IQ was released that I have heard this difference thousands of times in the field. I would rather find them than try to prove to you or anyone that this works. I posted the test video with three targets under 3 inches of full bar iron mineralization dirt with a 2” air gap using the FMF 11” coil. Take the audio test or ignore and dismiss it.

I’m almost 70 and I don’t want to waste valuable hunt time by making in the field videos.

This audio nuance method works for me even on deeper targets, even with the 11X13” coil and even in dirt that fills up the Deus 2 mineralization meter out here and YES, I can hear similar differences using the Manticore and use that edge with it too.

So, having an edge on canslaw due to the HF2 coils not having normalized target IDs is definitely another tool in the tool box and something that Manticore can’t do since its target IDs are normalized just like they basically are with Deus 2 and the FMF coils.

The video I posted above is a clear example of an audio nuance that Deus 2 gives the user. Deus 1 had the nuance demonstrated and a second one that worked very well on shallower nickel vs gold ring vs pull tab and even vs canslaw. I haven’t used that second nuance much using Deus 2 Mono or Fast 40 because it also doesn’t work well in higher mineralization just like the method you are showing.

It is really good to share findings, tips and actual field proven methods to help each other. That is the main reason I joined these forums-to learn and to help others.
 
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If you hunt in the water or on beaches fresh or saltwater you will learn your machine better and faster with different conditions calabash shows this in his beach videos good luck
Mark
 
XY screen.

More often then not, a straight line means a uniform shaped target.

top right/bottom left quad is silver.
Top left/bottom right quad is gold.
Straight north/south always dig.

Depending on zoom number, size of line is depth.

nothing is 100% or else we'd all be rich.

ymmv
Actually XP took the XY screen from the AKA machines, AkA developed that screen in the 80s,it's actually called a hodagraph. Not fool proof but no more accurate really than a solid ID number.
 
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