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To Tweak or to Trust?

Monkeys Uncle

Well-known member
Been detecting 8 yrs. Started with a cheap Bounty Hunter. Moved up ($ wise) to an AT Pro, then to an ETRAC and now a Vanquish 440. Detected good and bad targets with all of them. Best find ever was a $6 grand diamond ring...BUT, that find was made on the surface, in bright light with the naked eye. Would not have discovered most of the other finds without a detector though.

After 8 yrs and 4 machines (simple & complex) with upgrades in technology over time, my thoughts on the subject are the more bells/whistles in terms of how much one can "fine tune/tweak" his/her machine...the more frustration one will encounter. It will become a constantly nagging matter of "how much" discrimination does one use??, which is the "better (more conclusive) signal"...ferrous or conductive??, how high (or low) should I set the gain??, which tone or pitch (if you can even tell) is really silver and not clad?? I could continue the list...but, I think you get the idea.

Right or wrong...I've become convinced of two things. They are:
1.) A multitude of "bells/whistles" CAN improve one's abilities/opportunities to dig treasure, BUT it;
2.) Will or can also heighten one's likelihood of missing treasure due to the "wrong" settings for the location/target/depth/moisture/orientation. etc., etc., ETC, ad infinitum!!

My point is...the more choices one has...the more chances of "getting it wrong" AND the more one will begin to "doubt" those choices AND ultimately, his/her "machine's actual capabilities". I say this because I've watched several videos where the user demonstrates that given certain settings, the detector can totally ignores a target, and after toggling thru various settings...the machine finally indicates a target was present all along. WHO wants to continually make adjustments...guessing every time what the BEST settings are...WHEN we're not even aware that we unknowingly just "walked over" a good target?? That consideration IS the definition of frustration in my mind.

As for me...I've moved to settling for:
a.) the "latest technology" +
b.) "a Mfg. reputation for quality", and every bit as important TO ME,
c.) "simplicity".

I've decided to trust in the mfg's engineer, who IS an expert in their field and LAST...realize the machine that "GETS IT RIGHT" every time in every condition for every kind of treasure...HASN'T BEEN BUILT and probably never will.

X-Ray vision might get us there.
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HH, good luck and stay well!
 

Monkeys Uncle

Well-known member
Dude the E-Trac is the best detector the 440 doesn't come close.
"Once upon a time"...I believed that. Own them both and have LOTS of hrs using the former...but will have to disagree with you. Vanquish is a simpler, lighter detector...but every bit as capable and 10,000 times easier to detect with. I don't have to worry, wonder or hope that I have it programmed for the site, its conditions and probable targets and depart thinking "what I MIGHT have found with different settings!!! ML's engineers figured all that out and I TRUST THEM. Good luck, HH and stay well!
 

Elmy

Well-known member
"Once upon a time"...I believed that. Own them both and have LOTS of hrs using the former...but will have to disagree with you. Vanquish is a simpler, lighter detector...but every bit as capable and 10,000 times easier to detect with. I don't have to worry, wonder or hope that I have it programmed for the site, its conditions and probable targets and depart thinking "what I MIGHT have found with different settings!!! ML's engineers figured all that out and I TRUST THEM. Good luck, HH and st
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Monkeys Uncle

Well-known member
Admittedly, the E-Trac IS an excellent machine. It is also an old one, whose time may have passed. It (like all detectors) will NEVER find everything...but, it definitely will not find THE target IF its user hasn't optimized all/every setting the E-Trac and like machines have made available to the untrained, inexperienced, confused and befuddled detectorist who must navigate the uncharted, underground world of hidden treasure AND junk. o_O
 

Elmy

Well-known member
Admittedly, the E-Trac IS an excellent machine. It is also an old one, whose time may have passed. It (like all detectors) will NEVER find everything...but, it definitely will not find THE target IF its user hasn't optimized all/every setting the E-Trac and like machines have made available to the untrained, inexperienced, confused and befuddled detectorist who must navigate the uncharted, underground world of hidden treasure AND junk. o_O
sorry to see you give the etrac up ...hope your new found dream machine works out for you !
 

Monkeys Uncle

Well-known member
sorry to see you give the etrac up ...hope your new found dream machine works out for you !
Haven't given up on it. IT IS a very very good machine. I have to admit, I was more than surprised by the Vanquish....particularly it's depth + stable response at depth + amazing recovery rate + separation capability. I'm old and lazy...I simply wanted a 'lighter' machine to swing for longer periods of time...BUT, can't express how impressed I've become by this SIMPLE, LITTLE detector. It has made detecting FUN & EASY again for an old coot.

By the way, Elmy I (as do many others) owe you a great deal of gratitude for your help and advice on using the E-Trac. I will continue to use it, but not everyday and will probably PM you when I need help. Thanks!!!
 
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