On the XT705, i was curious to see what your experience has been with the tones produced by the jewelry you have found. I understand that a lot of trash (bottlecaps, pop tops, foil, etc) are the same TID as jewelry, but seem to have a somewhat broken tone. When the coil goes over jewelry does it produce a very clear audio tone? Or is it going to be more similar to the trash signals that i seem to be getting? Just wondering if there was a way to dig a little less trash. Thanks for the input.
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Tones for Jewelry?
- Thread starter Bolopwr
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mapper65
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Hi Bolopwr, I know this is kind of an open ended answer but your best bet it to grab some rings necklaces and such in 14kt, 10kt and some 925 sterling stuff and take them out in the yard and swipe your coil over them. Take note of a bracelet that it lying in a straight line as opposed to the clasp being connected and it sitting in a circle. You'd be surprised what orientation does for both the target ID and actual audio sound.
Like with any other targets if they are near the top you'll get a pretty distinct sound and ID. If they are further down and depending on the mineralization of the ground this could change the game entirely. You really have to spend some time testing some known targets and taking notes. That will only get you part of the way there but will at least prepare you much better than guessing.
Like with any other targets if they are near the top you'll get a pretty distinct sound and ID. If they are further down and depending on the mineralization of the ground this could change the game entirely. You really have to spend some time testing some known targets and taking notes. That will only get you part of the way there but will at least prepare you much better than guessing.
scoopjohnb
New member
Maybe you won't like this answer,... every tone is possibly hiding jewelry behind it.
A large silver bracelet will scream at you.
A deep down small gold earring will ID just slightly different from the Iron tones.
Prospecting mode is great as this just separates ferrous from non-ferrous targets.
One thing about jewelry is that it always seems an odd target to the bunch.
Deep foil?
Not the usual pulltab for that particular park, a very deep pulltab.
A dig all kind of game.
A large silver bracelet will scream at you.
A deep down small gold earring will ID just slightly different from the Iron tones.
Prospecting mode is great as this just separates ferrous from non-ferrous targets.
One thing about jewelry is that it always seems an odd target to the bunch.
Deep foil?
Not the usual pulltab for that particular park, a very deep pulltab.
A dig all kind of game.
Not only you Minelab guys, who I respect and follow the posts of...Mapper and Scoopjohn summed it up pretty succintly...so the answer sort of is retrieval speed per outing and dedication to remembering tones, location awareness etc...those little 10k rings that sound like foil? Those nice mens rings that sound like tabs? and then toss in the bracelets and necklaces and all, and man, the signal could be all over the board. You get good and fast at retrieval of a target, and you will find gold and learn quicker than others that dont recover as many signals as you can in an hour. For instance, I found a nice silver bracelet that gave the exact signal as one of those aluminum wires off a chain link fence, except it was in the middle of a football field, had it been next to a fence, I would have passed, so the location was the indicator and not the signal itself. Good Luck, you have a fine machine, you'll be OK.
Mud
Mud
Along with what's already been said, I'll add that you shouldn't expect to get steady TID's.on all but plain bands.
Not unlike the lower and broken tones mentioned by mudpuppy, part of what your detector responds to is reflective surfaces and irregular shapes. The more reflective facetts a piece has the more likely it is to have a jumpy TID, especially since it's nearly impossible to be sure to approach it from precisely the same angle more than once. It's the same reason that we dig a lot of wadded up foil when jewelry hunting.
Not unlike the lower and broken tones mentioned by mudpuppy, part of what your detector responds to is reflective surfaces and irregular shapes. The more reflective facetts a piece has the more likely it is to have a jumpy TID, especially since it's nearly impossible to be sure to approach it from precisely the same angle more than once. It's the same reason that we dig a lot of wadded up foil when jewelry hunting.
Thanks for the prompt responses! That was a lot of good information. It looks like i am going to have to keep digging a lot of trash to find the goodies. But, i guess i look at digging trash this way - Its a community service to remove it from the parks...anything i find of value is payment for that service. Plus its fun being out there using the detector. I am going to have to get some jewelry and try it out in my test garden and go from there to see how my machine reacts. Thanks again for the great info.
Dont get discouraged about the trash, get smart and FAST! I luckily met an old guy who told me to "dig 1000 pennys and dig 1000 pulltabs" when I first started out. That excersize made me smart and fast.
I found the top half of one of those Claddaugh rings yesterday, in the dark, on a sledding hill, near the rope tow,..it sounded like junk of course, foil, and not good foil either, not solid and round and all...but hey, its snow, so with the kick of a boot the signal is revealed and recovered. Ashamed to say I'd a passed on that signal in the dirt. but not on a sledding hill! You are right about the FUN part! This is GREAT!
Mud
I found the top half of one of those Claddaugh rings yesterday, in the dark, on a sledding hill, near the rope tow,..it sounded like junk of course, foil, and not good foil either, not solid and round and all...but hey, its snow, so with the kick of a boot the signal is revealed and recovered. Ashamed to say I'd a passed on that signal in the dirt. but not on a sledding hill! You are right about the FUN part! This is GREAT!
Mud
Gday 
Using the Xterra I have found gold jewellery which gave a tone similar to foil, ringpulls, Aussie 5c piece (small cupro-nickel coin) , 20c (medium c/n), 25c coin (large c/n coin), $1 and $2 coins.
The tone maybe broken at times, like when a ring has larger gemstones (or a thin chain), sometimes I have heard a little higher pitched "ping" as the coil moves over the edge of the target (it was a nice thick 9K gold ring) and sometimes I have heard a double tone like a shallow ring can give.
TID's also vary as widely as the above objects typically give off.
One thing I found amazing...there was a guy on here a couple of years ago from New Zealand picking up beach rings witrh TID's in minus .. -2, -4 if I recall correctly.
Both the tone and TID can vary according to shape, mass, size plus the carat of the gold (low k gold = lower tone and TID as a rule)
Soil conditions, depth, how well your machine is balanced then also come into play
so as you see and others have said there is no right or wrong answer as it just varies too much
I like to dig a variety of targets most hunts and have been sometimes rewarded by gold by doing so
Keep digging the low tones like ring pulls and the 9 or 10K will come to you
best of luck
T59
Using the Xterra I have found gold jewellery which gave a tone similar to foil, ringpulls, Aussie 5c piece (small cupro-nickel coin) , 20c (medium c/n), 25c coin (large c/n coin), $1 and $2 coins.
The tone maybe broken at times, like when a ring has larger gemstones (or a thin chain), sometimes I have heard a little higher pitched "ping" as the coil moves over the edge of the target (it was a nice thick 9K gold ring) and sometimes I have heard a double tone like a shallow ring can give.
TID's also vary as widely as the above objects typically give off.
One thing I found amazing...there was a guy on here a couple of years ago from New Zealand picking up beach rings witrh TID's in minus .. -2, -4 if I recall correctly.
Both the tone and TID can vary according to shape, mass, size plus the carat of the gold (low k gold = lower tone and TID as a rule)
Soil conditions, depth, how well your machine is balanced then also come into play
so as you see and others have said there is no right or wrong answer as it just varies too much
I like to dig a variety of targets most hunts and have been sometimes rewarded by gold by doing so
Keep digging the low tones like ring pulls and the 9 or 10K will come to you
best of luck
T59
fwcrawford
Well-known member
Below are a couple of rings I found recently.
The small diamond ring gave an ID reading of 12 on my X-Terra 50 and did not bounce around.
This ring was just under the surface in a yard.
The wedding band was found on a small beach and gave an ID reading of 15 and again locked on without bouncing around.
This ring was also just under the surface.
Most pulltabs I have gone over give similar ID readings, but they tended to bounce around between two or three numbers.
I did find a small wedding band ( not pictured) a short time ago for my cousins wife and it did bounce around on the ID screen.
I was purposely looking for this ring and probably would have figured it was trash and left it there had I not known the ring was lost in the area.
This ring may not have been laying flat causing the numbers to bounce around.
She had a ring just like the one that was lost and on top of the ground it gave a reading of 27 while laying flat, but when turned on its side or angled, the readings bounced around quite a bit.
Can't offer much advice except to say that if there is a good chance of finding gold jewelry in an area, then you probably will have to dig every signal like the others have already stated.
I certainly learned alot in finding these rings and was surprised at the responses and readings.
I dug quite a few targets before I found my cousins wife's wedding band and they started to loose hope of finding it, and then I got an iffy signal like so many others I dug, and low and behold, I finally found it after about 2 hours.
Hope this helps some,
Felix
The small diamond ring gave an ID reading of 12 on my X-Terra 50 and did not bounce around.
This ring was just under the surface in a yard.
The wedding band was found on a small beach and gave an ID reading of 15 and again locked on without bouncing around.
This ring was also just under the surface.
Most pulltabs I have gone over give similar ID readings, but they tended to bounce around between two or three numbers.
I did find a small wedding band ( not pictured) a short time ago for my cousins wife and it did bounce around on the ID screen.
I was purposely looking for this ring and probably would have figured it was trash and left it there had I not known the ring was lost in the area.
This ring may not have been laying flat causing the numbers to bounce around.
She had a ring just like the one that was lost and on top of the ground it gave a reading of 27 while laying flat, but when turned on its side or angled, the readings bounced around quite a bit.
Can't offer much advice except to say that if there is a good chance of finding gold jewelry in an area, then you probably will have to dig every signal like the others have already stated.
I certainly learned alot in finding these rings and was surprised at the responses and readings.
I dug quite a few targets before I found my cousins wife's wedding band and they started to loose hope of finding it, and then I got an iffy signal like so many others I dug, and low and behold, I finally found it after about 2 hours.
Hope this helps some,
Felix
Well I have not found gold with my 305 or 705 yet but on silver its great. I recently found a few silver crosses and ring. First silver cross was a solid 32 on the 305, the second silver cross gave me a 34-36 on the 705 and the ring was a solid 44 on the 705. All three were very nice tones. Hopefully I can give you some info on any gold I find