Too Many Beeps

[cachenut]

I tried to set up my Exp II using

editing, ferrous, sensitivity 20, deep, advanced, but I got so many beeps and high tones it drove me nuts. I only found three coins and they behaved as expected on the digital screen and they were shallow.

Checking out those short high tones took up so much time I didn't cover much ground. And it was frustrating going back to check out the high tones only to find it was just on the edge of some other target or combo of targets. They were often not repeatable. Every third swing I had to check one out.

I had the bottom fourth of the screen and the left fourth blacked out.

Gain and the other options were at factory settings.

I dug about 10 targets that came thru as near coins but were trash two copper wires, one fence post, lipstick tube, canvas grommet, two bottle caps. fence post cap, etc ...

Suggestions????

Too many beeps, too many high tones.

Joe.

 

[MJP (IL)]

Not sure I understand 'Editting'.

Maybe sens 20 is too high for the area. Trashy areas require lower sens settings, especially if targets are less than 5 inches down. Try sens 12, turn FAST on and slow your swing speed down to a crawl.

 

[cachenut]

I edit the descrim as stated in the message and used it that way.

fast might help.

 

[Chris(SoCenWI)]

Yes Joe,

It will make tons of beeps and noises and after a couple of months your brain will be tuned to only hear the good ones. And you will have to dig alot of crap to figure out what is good and what is not. And even after four five years you will still be learning.

Almost everyone, not 100%, but almost everyone who consistantly makes good finds with their machine does it by running as little discrimination as possible. Which means lots of beeps and noises for your brain to sort through. You are smarter than your detector and if you use discrimination you are telling it to not tell you everything it sees.

This is hard, especially at first, so starting with the coins program or a middling amount of iron mask is just fine. Open things up as you go along. People get too worried about all the settings and most of them don't make a huge difference, particularily for the beginner.

If you are a new user about the only thing you have to worry about is the sensitivity, and you can use Auto and probably do alright.

But for people starting out....

Go to a competely open(all white, either nothing selected in disc mode or IM-16) screen. Change the sensitivity to manual. Hold the coil in the air and start bumping up the sensivity until the machine starts chirping and beeping and looses threshold. This is unstable. Some people that use too much discrimination have the machine going apeshit but never realize it. Bump it down a few clicks. Put the coil on the ground and move it to a spot where there is no target. You should get a steady threshold. If not kick down the sensitivity. Once you start moving the coil it will probably beep up a storm but that is because people are really messy and the ground is full of targets. Sensitivity makes the biggest difference in finding targets, keep bumping it up as high as you can if the area allows, but there will be many times that you will not be able to get above the teens.

Now add in the discrimination and go detecting. If you are generally hard of hearing you may want to kick up the gain. Probably kick the variability up to max unless you have high frequency hearing loss. Don't worry about any other setting for now and forget making patterns.

Chris

 

[Shotgun]

but in the beginning I finally learned to reduce the sensitivity. It is a hard thing to do, but do it anyway. After you learn the machine, you will go over the same areas and still get those coins others miss. When I lowered sensitivity to a very stable level, I still got good coins. I hate to say this, BUT it was about equal to my other Garrett machines in this mode. Then my brain and I learned to interpret the sophisticated signals the Explorer produces as you get more advanced and get into iron mask mode.

The real kicker is on saltwater beaches. Forget the screen, close your eyes, and LISTEN!

Good luck.
Jonathan
Daytona Beach
P.S. My very first find with the Explorer was a whopper of a gold ring with three stones. Not three hours after bringing it home and putting batteries in it!

 

[Joe G]

I had to smile at your post because that was ME a few months ago

Hang in there. The suggestions by the others are good ones and should help you out. It simply takes some time to understand what the heck all the beeps are... Try to hunt in some less trashier areas first. At first, dig everything that is repeatable 2 ways: left to right and at 90 degrees. Might want to try running on auto sensitivity for a while as it will keep it stable; one less thing to worry about.

After you dig a bunch of targets (good and bad) you'll start to get the knack of what to listen for. Pretty soon your brain will automatically tune out all the garbage signals. Most of the time I don't run with much discrimination at all, just a little iron mask (really depends on the site) I LIKE to hear as much as I can...

Read you manual over and over... there are many forums / websites that also have a great deal of info on the Exp II. However, I'd advise you not to play with too many features until you can consistantly identify and dig up good targets. Plenty of time down the road to play with tweeking this thing.

Practice it gets easier. You've got one awesome machine!

 

[Ace]

Maybe a smaller coil should help in those trashy areas, the EXcellerator 5" coil should be great (My Explorer II arrives today! Finally, so I'll let you know how this little coil works), or the Sunray X-5 or the X-8 coils... The Minelab 8" one too.

 

[cachenut]

Well when I use deep and raise the sensitivity on the factory supplied descrim pattern I start to get too may false positives. And the same goes for quickstart if I kick up the sensitivity too much.

The large number of beeps is more a function of the trashy area than any detector setting. I just have to turn it down a little until I get fewer sounds.

The extra high tones with ferrous setting seems to be a feature of the ferrous setting and something I just need to live with. I will just need to turn it down in trashy settings.

Yes a smaller coil would help some.