Loosecanon
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Yesterday 3 of us went to some old cabin areas where lots of nails and pieces if iron littered the landscape. Can you post the techniques you use to MD trashy areas to minimize digging.
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Trashy area techniques.
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Bill in Oregon
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LC: Which coil were you running?
Loosecanon
New member
Stock mf coil.
What are you looking for? Coins? Relics? Both?
Are you searching in DISC mode or AM?
You can knock out much of the trash in DISC by notching out -8 through 4 and 48. Since gold can be found as low as 6, you're likely not going to miss anything good, and you'll eliminate a ton of small trash.
The MF coil that you have should be just fine. In fact, it will provide the most honest TID of any available. If the density of the trash is REALLY bad, the 6" MF coil would be an asset. The 6" HF DD would separate even more, but at the expense of depth and ID accuracy.
Another advantage of the smaller coils, is that they are closed, and therefore less prone to snagging every little stickup in the area that you're searching.
Are you searching in DISC mode or AM?
You can knock out much of the trash in DISC by notching out -8 through 4 and 48. Since gold can be found as low as 6, you're likely not going to miss anything good, and you'll eliminate a ton of small trash.
The MF coil that you have should be just fine. In fact, it will provide the most honest TID of any available. If the density of the trash is REALLY bad, the 6" MF coil would be an asset. The 6" HF DD would separate even more, but at the expense of depth and ID accuracy.
Another advantage of the smaller coils, is that they are closed, and therefore less prone to snagging every little stickup in the area that you're searching.
Loosecanon
New member
Old Longhair,
Thanks for the reply, I am hunting for coins and jewelry in parks and around old abandoned houses and cabins. I have considered the 6" DD coil and probably will get it soon, I hunt on AM mode most of the time then if I get some trash signals I switch to disc1. All in all I am getting to know what the md is telling me and have been able to be correct in what I dig out.
Thanks for the reply, I am hunting for coins and jewelry in parks and around old abandoned houses and cabins. I have considered the 6" DD coil and probably will get it soon, I hunt on AM mode most of the time then if I get some trash signals I switch to disc1. All in all I am getting to know what the md is telling me and have been able to be correct in what I dig out.
Mark in S.E. IA
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Something that you can try if the area has a lot of iron. The etrac boys call it TTF. it's when you run in AM with just two tones so all you hear is a grunt for iron and a high tone for everything else, so when you do hear a high tone you will have to look at the screen to see what the TID is. Several weeks ago when I was chatting with Terry "Goes4ever" I was telling him about a farm field that years a go had a farm there and I was having problems finding anything because of all the iron there and he talked me in to trying the TTF thing. The next day I went out to the field and tried it, WOW I could not believe the difference it made, I was able to find a few coins that day and a few other things. Now when ever I'm in a field or a any other place with heavy iron I run in AM with two tones, all the other places I run in pattern 1 with 4 tones.
Loosecanon
New member
Thanks Mark
I will try that, sounds interesting i think it will help a lot.
I will try that, sounds interesting i think it will help a lot.
Mick in Dubbo
New member
Having your detector in the All Mettal mode is real important. It makes a huge difference in recovery speed and I find that the X-Terra's low tone is pretty easy on the ear. I can't say that for some detectors.
I went out for a hunt yesterday with a forum member. He had the 15 inch coil on and I had the 3kHz coil on. He asked me over to check out a couple of targets. As we we primarly hunting for Aussiue $1 and $2 coins, so he had most notches knocked out and I ran in all metal. The targets I checked were bouncing around on the ID. On his, they were giving solid locks, or single bounces. The last target was bugging me so we went back to it and rechecked the target. I was getting the numbers bouncing everywhere and he was getting a solid lock. We dug it up and it turned out to be a mangled scew cap.
Later, I got half of a high tone mixed in with a number of other hits. (I was in 4 tones.) I raised the coil a couple of inches and was able to iscolate the good tone amounst a mixure of othe tones. It was a $2 coin. I was surprised that I was able to seperate the targets so well with the round coil. The 5x10 does great for that. What I like about the concentrics, is that the tones and numbers seem to be more useful than the DD coils.
BTW. He absolutey kicked my but for totals, but who cares.
Mick Evans.
I went out for a hunt yesterday with a forum member. He had the 15 inch coil on and I had the 3kHz coil on. He asked me over to check out a couple of targets. As we we primarly hunting for Aussiue $1 and $2 coins, so he had most notches knocked out and I ran in all metal. The targets I checked were bouncing around on the ID. On his, they were giving solid locks, or single bounces. The last target was bugging me so we went back to it and rechecked the target. I was getting the numbers bouncing everywhere and he was getting a solid lock. We dug it up and it turned out to be a mangled scew cap.
Later, I got half of a high tone mixed in with a number of other hits. (I was in 4 tones.) I raised the coil a couple of inches and was able to iscolate the good tone amounst a mixure of othe tones. It was a $2 coin. I was surprised that I was able to seperate the targets so well with the round coil. The 5x10 does great for that. What I like about the concentrics, is that the tones and numbers seem to be more useful than the DD coils.
BTW. He absolutey kicked my but for totals, but who cares.
Mick Evans.
Loosecanon
New member
Thanks Mick, good story and good finds.
If you check out pages 40 - 42 of the eBook, "Understanding your X-TERRA", you'll find some of the techniques I've found effective for sorting out the nails. Pages 66 - 68 explain what I listen and look for while on a hunt. And I talk about how to combat the wrap around effect (as with deeply buried nails) on pages 76 - 78. Heck, if you've not read the eBook yet, you might find there are all sorts of things to help you in your hunts! HH Randy
Loosecanon
New member
Thanks Digger, I have read some of the book, I will make it a point to read all of it before Wed. Leaving on a 4 day detecting and prospecting trip around Boseman MT. Thanks for the outstanding publication and your hard work.
7centsworth
Well-known member
I do the same thing Mark does and I use a 6inch dd coil also.
