GroundScanner
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Can any one tell me anything about this unit ? Is it a great detector or is it a dive. Thanks, GS
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Troy Shadow x5 ...........
- Thread starter GroundScanner
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Well, that's a little like asking someone to "tell you about a certain toyota truck" or "tell me about a min cooper", etc... The answer would be: "what do you want to use the vehicle for? What's your goals? Are you going to haul lumber? Then maybe the truck is the better choice. Do you want to go 120 mph? Then maybe you should consider a corvette. Do you want gas mileage? then the mini-cooper is for you. Etc...
The shadow x5 is merely an x2 on steroids. It has its place in certain environments. But can be very chattery with clicks & clacks that take getting used to. Relic hunters like it. And as with the X2, probably good around iron (in ghost-townsy type environments). But again, chattery and noisy. If I were going to want something good in iron, I'd probably stay with the x2. The extra power they gave the x5, IMHO, cost it on TID's for the deeper targets.
also the x5 is not going to be good for very mineralized ground, or wet salt beach, etc...
So it all depends on what you're used to, what your goals are, etc...
The shadow x5 is merely an x2 on steroids. It has its place in certain environments. But can be very chattery with clicks & clacks that take getting used to. Relic hunters like it. And as with the X2, probably good around iron (in ghost-townsy type environments). But again, chattery and noisy. If I were going to want something good in iron, I'd probably stay with the x2. The extra power they gave the x5, IMHO, cost it on TID's for the deeper targets.
also the x5 is not going to be good for very mineralized ground, or wet salt beach, etc...
So it all depends on what you're used to, what your goals are, etc...
By gosh Tom! You are always good for a laugh! Now, tell this poor guy the Troy Shadow X5 actually has a feature that makes a fellow invisible, like a shadow!...built for folks that want to go and hunt Gettysburg, Yellowstone, hell, even the White House front lawn! and we'll call it a day! Thanks! (You really asked for it Groundscanner!
)Mud
GroundScanner
Well-known member
Well i don't no anything about the x2,x3 or x5. this is why i asked about the x5. Anyways ,will be using for C's and J and relic's. Thanks
It's a good solid rugged machine that has good depth in not too mineralized soil. Some people claim 14" on nickles, I could never do that with mine, 8-9" max. Sold mine a long time ago but it is a good reliable machine, especially for relic hunting, found 4 US plates with mine at an old plantation site. HH
A couple of years ago on the Troy forum people were posting about their relic hunts where the X5 and the Tejon were being used. Some hunts the Tejon came out ahead others the X5 so it should be a good machine and if I remember correctly it's waterproof or at least rainproof making it a little easier to hunt with in bad weather.
Sven
Well-known member
It had its moments, many relic hunters in Georgia considered it a go to machine and held it in high regards.
When I lived down there myself, read all the posts on forums etc. and bought into the hype. Went out and bought one
with high hopes of finding CW relics, coins, jewelry.....
My first impression after it arrived, wow, fantastic build, very nice. Read the manual, bench tested it then hit the woods.
Operation and sounds reminded me of the Fisher CZ5 I owned a few years back. Spent a few hours in the woods.
Thought it was a Fisher.........the X5 was made by Fisher for Troy. I wasn't too impressed with the performance. Spent another
week hunting schoolyards, more woods then decided it did not live up to what I have read etc. So I sold it easily and recouped my money.
It's a cult machine so resale prices still remain in the $500-600 range, which hasn't changed since I bought mine in 2007.
These days there are better machines used or new in that price range. But, if your itching to try one, scratch your itch, they are always in demand.l
Never hurts to ask questions here, lots of guys been detecting since the 60's and have a wealth of information they would love to share if someone asks.
When I lived down there myself, read all the posts on forums etc. and bought into the hype. Went out and bought one
with high hopes of finding CW relics, coins, jewelry.....
My first impression after it arrived, wow, fantastic build, very nice. Read the manual, bench tested it then hit the woods.
Operation and sounds reminded me of the Fisher CZ5 I owned a few years back. Spent a few hours in the woods.
Thought it was a Fisher.........the X5 was made by Fisher for Troy. I wasn't too impressed with the performance. Spent another
week hunting schoolyards, more woods then decided it did not live up to what I have read etc. So I sold it easily and recouped my money.
It's a cult machine so resale prices still remain in the $500-600 range, which hasn't changed since I bought mine in 2007.
These days there are better machines used or new in that price range. But, if your itching to try one, scratch your itch, they are always in demand.l
Never hurts to ask questions here, lots of guys been detecting since the 60's and have a wealth of information they would love to share if someone asks.
GroundScanner
Well-known member
Thanks guys for all your help. When i get it , i will be sure not to ask a stupid question. Well to some. I never used a detector w/out a screen and only been at this for a year, i still not sure of a lot.
The X2 was a minor rev (mostly mechanicals) of one of Tesoro's more popular models, I think it was the Silver Sabre (someone correct me if that's wrong). And manufactured by Tesoro.
The X5 was a completely new design from the ground up, high-performance guts and weatherproof mechanicals. It is an all-analog beep-and-dig platform with emphasis on relic hunting, Troy's passion. It was manufactured by Fisher.
It was expensive, having been designed with a "spare no cost to get it right" philosophy and lacking economies of scale. The only people willing to pay the price were diehard relic hunters who were plugged into the grapevine and heard how good it was, and sufficiently diehard they were willing to learn how to use the knobs and switches to good advantage. All that made it a niche machine for which the total market was about 3,000 customers, maybe 5,000 if you include the stripped-down X3 version.
Unfortunately the X5 platform was maxed-out old technology, there was no "next step" available without starting over from scratch. The X5 didn't produce enough capital to fund development of a new clean-slate high end machine, and that was the end of the line for Troy metal detectors.
--Dave J.
The X5 was a completely new design from the ground up, high-performance guts and weatherproof mechanicals. It is an all-analog beep-and-dig platform with emphasis on relic hunting, Troy's passion. It was manufactured by Fisher.
It was expensive, having been designed with a "spare no cost to get it right" philosophy and lacking economies of scale. The only people willing to pay the price were diehard relic hunters who were plugged into the grapevine and heard how good it was, and sufficiently diehard they were willing to learn how to use the knobs and switches to good advantage. All that made it a niche machine for which the total market was about 3,000 customers, maybe 5,000 if you include the stripped-down X3 version.
Unfortunately the X5 platform was maxed-out old technology, there was no "next step" available without starting over from scratch. The X5 didn't produce enough capital to fund development of a new clean-slate high end machine, and that was the end of the line for Troy metal detectors.
--Dave J.
GroundScanner
Well-known member
Thanks , I have the DD coil also, so i hope that will work a little better in bad soil. .
I was very impressed with the X5 when I had mine and even though I swear by Minelab Sovereigns I found the X5 could do better in some areas and also seen where the X5 got signals on a coin the Sovereign and the Explorer XS showed as trash. I did air test and seen it seem to have good depth, but when I buried some coins the depth was not real good at all so I had to call Troy on it and told not to worry as like many detectors it may not see freshly buried coins. He was correct as a reburied dime at 5 inches was hard to hear, but I dug some older dime in undisturbed ground at 8-10 inches. I found a good signal was one I could swing the coil faster and seem to lock on where the false signals and the blips and pops would move or not hit when the coil was swung faster.
I liked my X5 and wasn't too fussed on the X3 but was told the X3 was more of a competition detector while the X5 was a more serious detector for finding actual finds.
Troy was real fussy with his Shadows as he changed a few things before he would release the detectors and had several hold up of thing he didn't feel comfortable with and when I had my speaker go bad on mine and called him he offered to send me his own personal X5 with next day delivery while he paid for my shipping of mine to him and had it back in a matter of a few days.
If Troy ever makes another detector I will be one of the first to get one as they are great detectors, but like most you have to get to know what it is telling you and understand it.
Rick
I liked my X5 and wasn't too fussed on the X3 but was told the X3 was more of a competition detector while the X5 was a more serious detector for finding actual finds.
Troy was real fussy with his Shadows as he changed a few things before he would release the detectors and had several hold up of thing he didn't feel comfortable with and when I had my speaker go bad on mine and called him he offered to send me his own personal X5 with next day delivery while he paid for my shipping of mine to him and had it back in a matter of a few days.
If Troy ever makes another detector I will be one of the first to get one as they are great detectors, but like most you have to get to know what it is telling you and understand it.
Rick
The Troy X5 was the worst detector that i have ever bought,the build quality was superb but it liked iron and over here in the UK we do have sites that have plenty of that stuff,i had all 3 coils stock,10x6 and the 7'' one and gave the machine plenty of time to try and tame it but after a year i put my hands up and decided to sell it.
Was lucky that after a year of owning one i got the same amount of money back that i paid for it,which was very good as the hype was still in progress.
I even spoke to Troy many times on the phone and from the UK the phone costs must have been high,but i only ever have seen 2 others being used over here and they all said the same the iron problem was the biggest down fall.
Have bought a few machines since but the Troy was the only machine that i have hated and sold.
Was lucky that after a year of owning one i got the same amount of money back that i paid for it,which was very good as the hype was still in progress.
I even spoke to Troy many times on the phone and from the UK the phone costs must have been high,but i only ever have seen 2 others being used over here and they all said the same the iron problem was the biggest down fall.
Have bought a few machines since but the Troy was the only machine that i have hated and sold.
GroundScanner
Well-known member
Thanks for your time and all your feedback guys.
Gary In Old VA
Member
I have used my X5 in all types of soil. This is a machine that is not for people that jump
from one unit to another.I am mostly a relic hunter but I have used it in competition hunts. My
wife is very good in the comp. hunts with her X5, she also uses it to coin hunt.I love mine
I have dug a lot of relics, old coins with mine. This unit is a very deep toy it works in hot ground
a lot better than most folks think. I have followed people using Fisher X70 and dug bullets in there scrapes.
This machine was assembled by Fished but not built by them. Troy had the circuit boards and the design
for the coils. He didn't have a way to bend the shafts so Fisher did that for him. I know that most feel that
the Whites MXT is a very good machine. Well the same guy designed it did the X5 Troy told me that
it is a X5 with a meter. I swear by mine,I know how to use it and all you need to do is just take your
time and learn it. If you have questions just drop me line and I will help you.
Gary
from one unit to another.I am mostly a relic hunter but I have used it in competition hunts. My
wife is very good in the comp. hunts with her X5, she also uses it to coin hunt.I love mine
I have dug a lot of relics, old coins with mine. This unit is a very deep toy it works in hot ground
a lot better than most folks think. I have followed people using Fisher X70 and dug bullets in there scrapes.
This machine was assembled by Fished but not built by them. Troy had the circuit boards and the design
for the coils. He didn't have a way to bend the shafts so Fisher did that for him. I know that most feel that
the Whites MXT is a very good machine. Well the same guy designed it did the X5 Troy told me that
it is a X5 with a meter. I swear by mine,I know how to use it and all you need to do is just take your
time and learn it. If you have questions just drop me line and I will help you.
Gary
The Troy X5 is an entirely different machine from the White's MXT, in terms of what's "under the hood". However they're both very versatile machines and they're in the same league when it comes to performance. I'm sure that Troy was not intending to mislead by the statement that "the MXT is an X5 with a meter"-- that phrase just happens to be an oversimplified way to compare the two machines in less than ten words.
--Dave J.
--Dave J.
Foreverteachable
New member
I know this is an old post but I have used one for years and have found loads of good buttons with it. It can be unstable around power lines but is light as can be, simple to use and sniffs out buttons and nickles in trashy areas and soil with lots of magnetite in it. I am looking to sell one with serial number 74 with the 9" and 5" coil when I got the 90 day waiting period LOL. I was a member many years ago and posted a lot when I had my DFX and then my Troy Shadow X5 but then I got into fly fishing and let my membership run out I guess. I know the grass probably isn't Greener but it's nice to try out a new detector and although I'll miss my shadow I'm sure I'll find another one that I like just as much even if I don't LOL. I attached some of the buttons and relics.