Truthfully, the difference in most detectors

[buggg]

Found a vid from a guy in Tennessee on the depth of the Vista X vs the EQ800.

I wasn't jerking your bobber that the Vista X is one deep machine. enjoy

 

[u2robert]

The Fisher CZ series detectors are also multi- frequency and the first Multi- freq. detectors

 

[jmaclen]

I like David a lot (the guy who made the video above). However, I disagree with his commentary. By the numbers that were showing up on the Equinox, 8, 9, 10, and some 13s and 14s, the Equinox identified that target as a deep non-ferrous low to mid conductor. If that had been a dime the tones and numbers would have been much higher using 50 tones. Since he gave the two choices as a nickel or dime he should have been able to call it easily. I don’t know why he didn’t.

The Vista X (me being a Tesoro fan) looks like a great beep and dig detector. I don’t know anything about it but I assume that David had it in some form of threshold based all metal mode which the Equinox simply does not have. I am not surprised that the Vista X gave a cleaner response if it was in All Metal.

 

[buggg]

The Vista X was in disc mode. Its just deeper than the nox, in my experiences as well. I just happened to run across this video to show it.
The nox is a nice detector, but not the best at everything.

 

[jmaclen]

The Vista X was in disc mode. Its just deeper than the nox, in my experiences as well. I just happened to run across this video to show it.
The nox is a nice detector, but not the best at everything.

That’s for sure. Thanks.

 

[Nauti]

Dancer,
This is a very dividing topic.You will get those who learn their machines to its limits who will agree that there is not much difference and those who believe the latest technology does make a difference.
I've been lucky enough to be able to own and test many detectors over the years in true conditions,ie targets in the ground,and some of the results i obtained have been quite a shock.
I believe that most detectors these days are fairly equal in their given categories,ie,high end,mid range or entry level....no one detector stands out over another these days.Some of the really good old detectors will still give the latest high tech wonders a spanking on a given day if a knowledgeable detectorist is using it.
Advertising plays a big part in a persons perception on how good a machine is......some get attracted to the big glossy adverts which tell us that we need this and that to be successful and then they enforce it to the last to justify paying the money they do to purchase them.
I'm happy using detectors that are now considered old hat.......i never feel i need the latest high tech offering because i find just as much as anybody else on average so in my personal opinion the latest high tech high price offerings are of no interest to me.When a really useful technological advance comes along i may feel differently but over recent years nothing has been introduced that increases finds rates to any great extent in reality.

 

[coffey67]

A hammer is a pretty simple tool. There are many specialized hammers for a variety of jobs. And even though it is a simple tool there is a difference between brands.

 

[Dig-a-holic]

Earlier this year I found four 1800's coins and a dozen musket and mini balls plus several other Civil War relics in a nearby field with my At Pro. Someone told me to get a Nox 600 and hunt it again so I did. I hunted that field 4 times and only thing I found was a clad dime. The soil is really loose and I was thinking there would be deeper finds. I was disappointed and have since sold the 600 although I did find 2 gold rings hunting school yards with it.

 

[Dancer]

Earlier this year I found four 1800's coins and a dozen musket and mini balls plus several other Civil War relics in a nearby field with my At Pro. Someone told me to get a Nox 600 and hunt it again so I did. I hunted that field 4 times and only thing I found was a clad dime. The soil is really loose and I was thinking there would be deeper finds. I was disappointed and have since sold the 600 although I did find 2 gold rings hunting school yards with it.

Got to agree with ya Dig. I got my Pro shortly after they came out. Hunted in all conditions. A battle ship it is. Now where I roam there's not a whole lot of gold jewelry around, but through the years it has gotten it's share along with Silver. And of course can slaw.

 

[Trashfinder]

I like David a lot (the guy who made the video above). However, I disagree with his commentary. By the numbers that were showing up on the Equinox, 8, 9, 10, and some 13s and 14s, the Equinox identified that target as a deep non-ferrous low to mid conductor. If that had been a dime the tones and numbers would have been much higher using 50 tones. Since he gave the two choices as a nickel or dime he should have been able to call it easily. I don’t know why he didn’t.

The Vista X (me being a Tesoro fan) looks like a great beep and dig detector. I don’t know anything about it but I assume that David had it in some form of threshold based all metal mode which the Equinox simply does not have. I am not surprised that the Vista X gave a cleaner response if it was in All Metal.

He was also running 5 and 6 for recovery which are not the best the nox has for looking at deep targets , but do much better unmasking shallower targets,,,, although i did once recover a barber quarter at 14 inches with recovery on 4.

 

[Colour]

For the most part, all detectors go the same depth, the difference is processing (relative to the technology) and coils. Loss of depth is typically what gets taken away due to processing.

Some allow for better sifting through rubbish due to three factors; 1rocessing, 2: speed/target separation, 3:coil choice.

 

[UtahRich]

If he's hunting for clad and recently lost jewelry, what he's doing is right on. Keep going. That said, there is a difference in detectors.

If he wishes to start finding jewelry in shallow water - a water resistant detector would be smart. If he wishes to hunt older locations and find older, deeper targets, he can give some thought on whether his current detector will work or if something complementary to what he already has would be a benefit to increase finds.

And the saying of Beware the Man with One Gun, should read - Be grateful for the 2nd amendment and our right to bear that 1 gun ( or more if you wish).

I do agree with the premise that it takes time in the field with a given detector to become EXPERT with it. Jack of all detectors, master of none. JMO

Rich -

 

[Ronstar]

Wow this post seems to have a renewed life...
Im not necessarily a one gun guy, quite the contrary. After several range sessions, for me the choice ended up Model 70 rifles, S&W revolvers, and two different semi automatic pistols. I can pick up any of the them in the dark and know which one I have. I know the power capabilities, the down range ballistics, and which one is the more appropriate caliber for the moment. Know your machine and become one.
One person with confidence and knowledge wins the battle everytime.

 

[Mark kus]

I do a lot of beach hunting saltwater and freshwater I will only use a multi frequency machine so I stick with Minelab for everything.
I also hunt year round here in Ct so I put hundreds if not a couple thousand hours a year on my detector heck my buddy pulled two gold rings from the water Saturday gotta like that in a few hours at a beach near our homes..
Mark

 

[tvr]

my buddy pulled two gold rings from the water Saturday

That wouldn't happen to be the one with the AQ would it?

 

[Mark kus]

That wouldn't happen to be the one with the AQ would it?

No not the same guy he used the garret pulse waterproof one cant recall name of it here are the rings he found

 

[onemore]

Only thing I would add is that when the company upgrades the processor/computer to a faster processor, and their software takes advantage of that additional speed, you may see the machine reset itself for the next target a little quicker than previous models. This can be helpful if you spend a lot of time detecting in heavy trash areas.

 

[u2robert]

Ronstar, I've read the quote about one gun in gun magazines before but I've always felt one gun was probably stuck in a drawer and hardly ever used. I'm wrong on a lot of things so maybe this also. As a multiple owner, blessed wit his own range, I practice a lot.

2 is 1, 1 is none.
Always have a backup
What if god forbid you have to use your firearm the police will take it then your unarmed.
Not good if you need it in self defense and the person has kin that don't look kindly on you.

 

[calibil]

Is it all that valuable? I'm just going to speak to my limited knowledge. So I come home after a nice hunt. In my case hunting mostly clad & jewelry. So say I have , 35 to seventy five coins, maybe sometimes a silver ring, couple times a year even a gold ring. My guess that with the right coil 80 to 90 plus of these targets fall no deeper than five inches. I believe they could all have been found by any machine Ive owned. It's when I get into a sports field with deep cover or a sandy beach . I gotta have that extra punch. Even if its only a inch or two. But how much different are these machines to each other? Back in the early 2000's I bought a machine off a very good American company for about $250. There was plenty of clad and good rings to be had back then. That little machine really cleaned up and was fun to use. Over the years the company came out with a second , third , and a fourth version of the same machine. Now just how much difference was there between them all? Take all the machines that have to be computer up dated. Thats nice but how big of a difference (in finds)doe's that make? Up against Ole reliable. The difference is first the site ( someplace that has promise ) than a hunter with some smarts & luck that can pick the place apart. Than a machine that hunter knows inside and out. Thats what makes the difference.

Gotta say know how to work your detector well with the correct coil and
ground condtions will be of the greatist value.
That being said the Blisstool has a bit of a learning curve but once set up for the ground does have very inpressive depth and i.d. By no means a turn on a go machine, but for a v.l.f unit with depth and time to learn how to use it

 

[irnwrkr]

had several guys walk up to me that were swinging various machines and bragging about their units. One of them was a safari. they all took off swinging their machines like a weedeater on steroids. They came back a few hours later with a few coins, in the meantime i stayed in a general area and hunted from different angles and ended up with far more. Ive owned many top of the line machines. The best one out there is the one you lnow and are comfortable with.