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Truthfully, the difference in most detectors

Dancer

Well-known member
had several guys walk up to me that were swinging various machines and bragging about their units. One of them was a safari. they all took off swinging their machines like a weedeater on steroids. They came back a few hours later with a few coins, in the meantime i stayed in a general area and hunted from different angles and ended up with far more. Ive owned many top of the line machines. The best one out there is the one you lnow and are comfortable with.
Well said and about Sums it up.
 

Picketwire

Well-known member
It is human nature to think you yourself have is better because you decided to buy it. We used to have Chevys so they were better than Ford. People with Cadillacs knew their's were better because they cost more. The Germans who started the bus factory near here knew they were all crap and Mercedes was best.

In detecting it seems like mine is best because the expert I believe the most said it was the best, but not all the experts agree. The ones that find the most are the ones controlled by the person who knows where to look and what their targets sound like.

I had a Ruger Single Six once that I didn't think was very accurate and it wasn't for me until I finally learned how to shoot it.
 

gunwolf

Well-known member
I had a Ruger Single Six once that I didn't think was very accurate and it wasn't for me until I finally learned how to shoot it.
this kind of explains it....I'll take it a step further... it doesn't matter if it's shooting, riding a motor cycle, driving a car or using a metal detector. once you learn how to use something, you should be able to switch models and with a slight learning curve be able to apply YOUR SKILLS and it should give you the best possible outcome. Yes, owning a more expensive firearm or metal detector is nice and they have their place... but I can shoot "almost" as good with a cheaper firearm, and metal detect with almost any machine and get a decent outcome. I set down the E-trac a few weeks back and test drove the vanquish 540 that my friend has... I walked the same pattern i walk, I swung the same way I swing, and most important I listened the way I listen... I found targets, sure the higher silver tone is nice on the E-trac, but the more inexpensive v540 did what it was designed to do. learn how to detect, and you become an even better detectorist with better equipment... you can cut a 2x4 with a $30 circular saw or you can cut it with a $130 circular saw, the outcome is the same and the average homeowner won't notice the difference in saws , yet the skilled carpenter who uses the saw all the time will....
 

Highlifter1000

Well-known member
I have always hunted for the most part slow and gridding when possible because one things for sure you have to get your coil over it to at least get a chance. But I totally agree with you. For example. The whites V3...V3i and the vx3 I honestly believe each one are capable of finding the same items even though the v3i had all the bells and whistles
 

woodbutcher

Well-known member
I've seen alot of new releases in the past 3 to 4 years. Bought and tried out most. I'm a coin hunter, sure relics are cool but time counts for me and holes wear me out after a dozen. . I see lots of talk about old tech, f75,at pro, racer 2, etc,,and guys saying they're just not as good as the new tech out. To me, the new tech out seems to be all geared towards relic beep and dig type hunting cause the visual ID, audio nuances just aren't there like the older machines I've mentioned. Could be me but I definitely like the older machines
 

hairymonsterman

Active member
Because not every silver coin is a high conductor, most of the one's i dig are between 5-13 on the Nox and there more responsive to higher freqs.
Infact if i was to use a low freq like 3 or 4khz, I'd quite possibly not even pick some of them up.
 
As one gets older and older, another criteria becomes important....the overall weight! ha ha... Seriously, the only difference between these modern detectors is the depth capability. Any seasoned detectorist would hunt fully open, no discrimination, and dig everything above iron; so how relevant are all the other bells and whistles? Now again, for us older and older and older folks, how relevant is it to dig consistently 8-9" holes, to find....large rusty iron? or...a tiny , tiny BB pellet? LOL
 

Rick W

Well-known member
Younger hunters want the most modern "headache" machines out there, and they usually have enough "smarts" to use them. I'm old-fashioned and "old school". Been digging since 1979. I don't want to dig to China for junk. If it's 8" or less deep, I'll dig it with a simple machine.
 

IDXMonster

Well-known member
Because not every silver coin is a high conductor, most of the one's i dig are between 5-13 on the Nox and there more responsive to higher freqs.
Infact if i was to use a low freq like 3 or 4khz, I'd quite possibly not even pick some of them up.
You are in Europe somewhere digging very small hammered coins? Or what type of silver coins do you deal with? Interesting…because in the US ALL of our silver coins would be considered to be high conductors….18+ on the NOX for the very smallest. But we realize that not everybody is in the US also….🙂
 

jim tn

Well-known member
You are in Europe somewhere digging very small hammered coins? Or what type of silver coins do you deal with? Interesting…because in the US ALL of our silver coins would be considered to be high conductors….18+ on the NOX for the very smallest. But we realize that not everybody is in the US also….🙂
Yeah, was wondering where he was from. Never had a silver coin with my Nox anywhere near those numbers. HH jim tn
 

u2robert

Well-known member
Your

Your right Dancer , I must agree that knowing your detector is what makes the difference. And a proper coil swing. Overlapping pattern. Good Audio . Even with that working for you , you still have to have the LOCATION !! Utmost importance!! I am successful finding many old silver , tokens , jewelry simply because I DO NOT hunt parks !! Private old homes are in your favor for finding really great targets,simply because your probably the first detectorist to be there . I also find that having a test garden helps testing new potential detectors. .... There are many detectors out there with good potential, I try working with new potentials for 2 months before a yes or no to keep detector. There not a new detector out there that surpasses what I use now . I use a 90s technology Fisher CZ and never feel outgunned. ( manufacturers do like hearing that , but it’s the truth) . ........ my two cents being a serious metal detectorist . HH Tony
The new detectors have a much faster processor that makes all the difference in unmasking targets.
I have used the CZ for years and years loved them but now-a-days they just are to slow.
 

Nauti

Well-known member
The new detectors have a much faster processor that makes all the difference in unmasking targets.
I have used the CZ for years and years loved them but now-a-days they just are to slow.
It isn't quite as simple as faster processors.I have owned and still own some older tech detectors that are great for pulling targets out of heavy iron.As i mentioned in an earlier post,extensive testing,(proper testing with targets in the ground on a well established testbed),threw up some very surprising results with some detectors that i thought would do really well not doing that well at all.
As you already know,Coil size,frequency,sensitivity to certain metals,soil conditions etc,etc,etc all play a part in the ability of a certain machine to unmask targets in real hunting conditions,there are so many variables to take into consideration.
I read all the time about how the latest machine has reopened old fields that have long since given up all their treasures,i watch ridiculous tests carried out on targets lying on the surface of the ground but if you directly compare one machine against another on actual targets in the ground you may be surprised.
There have been a few unbiased tests undertaken here in the UK where a detectorist has taken two detectors (one the latest high tech wonder,the other a cheap simple machine) to an undetected field and when a target is found with one detector the other detector is swept over the target to see if it too can detect it.......very interesting.This is the reality of detecting.......i would love to see this type of test carried out over a full seasons detecting between the latest high tech offering and a top notch older design........i think this would show how much the latest expensive machines have improved finds rates......or not as the case may be.
 

Dancer

Well-known member
Think about new technology beach /wade hunting. Any noticeable increase in a new machines depth coupled with discrimination is always looked at hard. The best pockets of finds are usually , but not always found by experienced hunters. Hunters who can find the areas that have been swallowed out by wave, wind action. Once when these conditions show up, it's bets off whose going to score best. When things get tough its the experienced hunter with a capable machine thats going to shine. Now if he has a machine that's an improvement over what he had , generally game over.
 

Nauti

Well-known member
Think about new technology beach /wade hunting. Any noticeable increase in a new machines depth coupled with discrimination is always looked at hard. The best pockets of finds are usually , but not always found by experienced hunters. Hunters who can find the areas that have been swallowed out by wave, wind action. Once when these conditions show up, it's bets off whose going to score best. When things get tough its the experienced hunter with a capable machine thats going to shine. Now if he has a machine that's an improvement over what he had , generally game over.
I'm waiting for a new dedicated beach machine to appear.......had everything from minelabs to pi's......haven't tried every model obviously but neither would i want to as nothing stands out.Pi depth with great discrim is well within the realms of possibilty i'm sure but that wouldn't benefit those who manufacture detectors i suppose.
I Know the beaches i hunt contain many items of gold jewellry that are that bit deeper than i can get with my machines so i wait in hope....are you listening NASA😂
 
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