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Trying Settings for more depth-VIDEO-Input/Opinions appreciated

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NiagracountyNY

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Today I took to the field after work and tried adjusting the settings that Seem to effect the depth and speed of the Deus.In the Video I bury A US Dime 10 inches(9 3/4 to be exact).I try all the stock programs and all the programs Ive loaded from the Internet,and a few I made.Then I go thru and properly GB and adjust the settings I believe would help(Im still learning this machine,I appreciate all your Opinions!)I start to get the dime after a few adjustments ,1 by 1 I try each and re swing to see the effect.I also change freq.The test is not perfect,I didnt plan this test out so its real and somewhat raw.After I get everything adjusted I hit the dime np,In fact i could raise the coil(11 inch coil) 4 inches off the ground and still get the dime.I would appreciate all you inputs on what I can do to improve even more.I really think a few more tweeks and Hitting a US dime at 14-15 inches shouldnt be a prob with the 11 inch coil.Thanks for watching and im looking forward to your input Folks. HH Jim T https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT3Yf_MCIPY&list=UUdYWV7eq_4vB3y_JZm2zBnQ
 
Wow! That is awesome! I can only guess as to why the signal is better when the coil is elevated...since your settings to get that dime are high powered, you're getting a little feedback from the ground when you have the coil right on top of the ground. Makes me wonder if you add a little ground notch if that would make the signal sound a little better when the coil was on the ground.

While watching your video, I found myself saying out loud, "try reactivity 2 and silencer -1, and then you did it :) Don't forget, when you change reactivity, the silencer will change automatically, so if you want to get max depth say in reactivity 2, you'll need drop the silencer down from 2.

You mentioned while in 4Khz that a vdi popped up now and again at 98...did it also give a 98 in the other freqs? I'm trying to understand if you could hear a difference in tones between freqs?

You found a clean place to put that dime...I'd love to see the same dime test in an area of the field that wasn't quite as clean. I couldn't tell and I don't remember if you said it or not, but were you using the 11 inch coil?

Were you filming with the glasses? Loved hearing the excitement in your voice when you got the dime singing soprano!

Thank you so much for taking the time to make the video--you made that dime sing!...well done!
 
Thanks Beepsilver,really appreciate the nice comments.I got the 98 to pop up in 18 khz fairly consistently as well.I dont rember a tone difference to be honest but it was very windy and I want people to hear the detector,so no headphones.So there may very well be a tone difference.4 and 18 seemed to hit the dime the best with the settings I was using.I did bounce around some so I may have missed something with the other 2 freq that would have helped the VDI hit 98.I filmed the whole test with the glasses,the lead ball and the flat button i filmed with my handheld Kodak.That dime was singing all right :clapping: I really think we could get 14-15 inches on a dime in clean ground.I will try this same test,with a nice big nail in the hole next time.Thanks for input I really appreciate any info that will help me master every aspect of the Deus. HH Jim T
 
You really bumped up a lot of people's knowledge of the Deus--again, well done! Was that the 11 or 9 inch coil?
 
11" coil----he stated that in the sixth line of his initial post.:)----It is an interesting post---I'll read it again!
beepsilver said:
You really bumped up a lot of people's knowledge of the Deus--again, well done! Was that the 11 or 9 inch coil?
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I wonder if the 9" would hit that? Very good video and from what I have tested that you don't need to make a lot of adjustments to get this machine to give out more. But when you are in dirt that is different levels or with dead weeds or leaves and mix in a bit of iron or trash and I would think things may change. Reactivity is really for iron or trash when you speed it up. I can hear you are running the deus a bit hot so it sounds like it's falsing a bit....you can use the backside of the coil to pin point once the hole is dug..so a little tweaking goes a long way that would be a great park setting you have. Or cleaner dirt for relic hunting...I also would be interested if you did a manual GB
 
Great video. My attention span is not what it used to be, I may need to re watch. One question did you have a control side? or an area on the ground that you scan without a target below?
I thought maybe your coil was beeping on motion.
 
My ground was reading around 85.When I set GB manually I set it down to 83 I believe.Yes I ran the coil over all kinds of clean ground.It was silent.The coil was silent on motion unless I took the GB more than 4 points under the ground value.I could hit the dime with tracking after changing the reactivity and silencer,but not nearly as clear as pumping or manual GB.I just set GB to 83 and left it ,ran very well.The fact I left the sens at 90 Keeps the machine stable I believe.I prob could have set the sens lower yet.
 
Nice video!!! I planted a few goodies in the test garden yesterday including an 11-12" inch penny and I can't hit it yet with anything I try. Also put a silver dime at 6" deep - easy pickins, right?! It was until I placed a nail almost directly over the top of the dime vertically - then no matter what I do the dime is totally masked. Thank you for the insight in a clean setting!
 
D&P-OR said:
11" coil----he stated that in the sixth line of his initial post.:)----It is an interesting post---I'll read it again!
beepsilver said:
You really bumped up a lot of people's knowledge of the Deus--again, well done! Was that the 11 or 9 inch coil?
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Thanks for keeping me straight! ;)
 
Hi Jim.....I am sorry to say that in my opinion you went wrong right at the start.
When I switched on the Deus I would have walked about 10 steps away from your truck.(too near to a large metal object)
I would have my ear phones switched off. held the coil straight out in front of me and switched on the machine.
Observe the BRIGHT flashing light ,then WHEN it stops flashing I then would press the speaker mode on or off, then switch on my earphones.
You would then have had better results from the preset modes. I think you then went on to put the coin in the hole over a large piece of metal.That is why you were getting the VDI of 98 (wrap around iron) and with the coil so far off the ground. I think you were getting the coin and the iron . Also the GB number I would have set at 89 if the GB you had was 85.......4 higher. I also think you will be lucky to get the VDI number of the coin alone at more than 6 or 7 inches but you will get the tone.



Cheers .
 
Caroly,thanks for your Observations.I personaly dont feel the truck bothered the detector at all.I also know there wasnt any iron in the bottom of that hole.Setting the Gb value Higer will make the machine run smoother but you lose depth from everything im seeing.Otherwise tracking would pick up that coin just as well as a manual GB.All I can say is dig a hole and copy the test.Please film the results so we can all learn from them.Thanks Jim T
 
caroly said:
Hi Jim.....I am sorry to say that in my opinion you went wrong right at the start.
When I switched on the Deus I would have walked about 10 steps away from your truck.(too near to a large metal object)
I would have my ear phones switched off. held the coil straight out in front of me and switched on the machine.
Observe the BRIGHT flashing light ,then WHEN it stops flashing I then would press the speaker mode on or off, then switch on my earphones.
You would then have had better results from the preset modes. I think you then went on to put the coin in the hole over a large piece of metal.That is why you were getting the VDI of 98 (wrap around iron) and with the coil so far off the ground. I think you were getting the coin and the iron . Also the GB number I would have set at 89 if the GB you had was 85.......4 higher. I also think you will be lucky to get the VDI number of the coin alone at more than 6 or 7 inches but you will get the tone.



Cheers .
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Jim I watched the entire video last night and I have to agree with Caroly on a couple points. You didn't hold the coil in midair while it was initializing which I've read elsewhere is KEY for correct operation.

I was VERY surprised you got a hit, much less a VDI on that dime...also, you were able to hit the dime in all 4 frequencies and it didn't seem to matter which one you used - the audio sounded very similiar. The coin could have been a "lens" to pull in the deep iron a little better. I've got some high 90s VDI on 7-8" deep Wheats before, so I'm not discounting the video but I want to be able to reproduce your results! There are a couple sites around here I'd like to be able to hit a 10" dime!!!

How much total record time do you get with the glasses?
 
Thanks for your reply I will do some tests this Saturday it really is cool that you don't need to make big changes on Deus
 
If there was deep iron in that hole,We would have heard a Iron grunt.The 1st part of the test was in Two tone ferrous sounds ALL Metal.We would have heard every little piece of iron.I really recommend trying this out by burying a dime yourselves,dont just change the settings and go.You need to prove it to yourself 1st.I do this will all my detector's to find out the limits and how to get the most from them.This just happened to be the 1st time I tried a deep coin with the deus, which Im glad i did I was missing stuff.We shouldget 1 inch of depth for every inch of coil,that is the universal average from what I see with all my detectors.I think the deus will pull a little more than that even.Its a very powerful unit. Good Luck ,HH Jim T
 
Frank- GM Power- change reactivity to 1 or 2 Silencer at 0 Manual GB sens was at 90 TX-3 You can take your fav program and just change these settings and prob get the added depth you want.I will be Using garys Ultimate program with these changes in the fields most likely.I will also use the Gm power with these as well when my ears need a change.
 
Here is a link to the Video I watched that gave me the Info I used in my Video. This fella knows his Deus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuANf3J3yg
 
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