Water may have killed my 75

[Lakota]

Yesterday we went to a fresh water swimming hole. Had a nice coin spill with a dime, nickel and several pennies. Continued to search around in All-Metal being very mindful of where the water was on the pole. Worked my way out onto the shore and the 75 started acting weird when on dry sand, then became unresponsive . After getting home and letting her have the night. I got up this morning and after a factory reset, It is not hitting at all on targets of normal size and composition i.e coins or my silver ring. In all metal it will hit on ferrous items, the TID is always 14 no matter the ferrous target.

Is my Beast slain or is this water some how getting into my coil?

Any thoughts or experiences with this type of malfunction would be greatly appreciated

Lakota

 

[Steve O]

My guess would be that water seeped into the coil. Happened to me after a water hunt. The coil would bump false and drove me half insane. Fisher replaced it and the new coil had black sealer I don'recall seeing, around the access plate.
If you have a coil cover on, remove and clean it.

 

[WV62]

If you can get your hands on another coil try it, that should tell you if water is the problem. If it turns out for sure the coil, maybe FT will let you just mail the coil back rather than the whole detector.

I have heard of a few having water problems, Maybe FT could put out some kind of fix it your self notice that would save a lot of problems, you would think by now they would know where the water is getting in at.

Ron in WV

 

[Lakota]

I was getting less response from the 75 before I shut her down for the evening then this morning. So perhaps it is a leak in the coil. I had plans to pick up a 5" DD for the Beast but if it is a moisture in the control house in some unlikely chance, I would now hate to spend the money only to find out it wasn't the coil.

Man this sucks. Is it possible if it is water in the coil that it will dry out?

Lakota

 

[WV62]

Not likely, my guess is it came in around where the wire goes into the coil and it would take forever and a couple of days to dry out. If you could get some holes in the coil without any damage to the wiring inside you may be able to dry it out and then seal the holes back up.

Just my thought you said you were careful about the water getting in the control box, and I would guess or think that if you got water in there it wouldn't even come on.

Is there not anybody around that could get you a coil to try? You could put out a request on this forum for anybody in your area to meet up and try on their coil. Is there a dealer near by, if so I would bet they would let you snap on a coil just to see. Who know you may buy it.

Or you could just call FT and get a RA number and return the unit to them, they will call you with the results after they have had time to check it out.

Can't think of any other way to check it out.

Ron in WV

 

[Lakota]

Not likely, my guess is it came in around where the wire goes into the coil and it would take forever and a couple of days to dry out. If you could get some holes in the coil without any damage to the wiring inside you may be able to dry it out and then seal the holes back up.

Just my thought you said you were careful about the water getting in the control box, and I would guess or think that if you got water in there it wouldn't even come on.

Is there not anybody around that could get you a coil to try? You could put out a request on this forum for anybody in your area to meet up and try on their coil. Is there a dealer near by, if so I would bet they would let you snap on a coil just to see. Who know you may buy it.

Or you could just call FT and get a RA number and return the unit to them, they will call you with the results after they have had time to check it out.

Can't think of any other way to check it out.

Ron in WV

Ron I appreciate the help on this. As of this time the only place local to me is a friends pawn shop that sells Whites. Closest dealer to me that I'm aware of is Bart feom Big Boys but he is in OK. and me Arkansas. Heck of a drive to try on a coil lol.

I left the coil outside today. It was a nice warm 92

 

[WV62]

Can anybody help Lakota, he needs to try a working coil.

Anybody near Arkansas that would happen to have a F75 coil and could hook up with Lakota and let him try a for sure working coil. I know Arkansas is a big place maybe Lakota could pinpoint his location.

Thanks

Ron in WV

 

[Lakota]

I'm right next Russellville ( River valley area ) . Any help would be awesome.

Lakota. ( Lee )

 

[MarkCZ]

I think there is also some other coils that will work on the F75 isn't there?
Like the F70,
Now I'm not sure but I'm also thinking that there is a Teknetics model that will also work??

Mark

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[WV62]

I forgot about the F70, those coils will work.

Just a thought, I discounted the coil from my F75 and fired it up, it came up with the normal start up display and after a few seconds it was pretty quiet, did get a few numbers to read. Lets say you do the same if the machine does pretty much the same as mine, we may want to assume that everything inside the control box is good.

So lets say best case, you order one of the small coils and the machine works, then you could do something with the 11"DD and be back hunting. Next best case, now if the machine didn't work with the little coil then your for sure would be sending the machine back to FT for repairs. At the end of the day you would be back in business. Now worse case, the machine is trash and can not be repair. You could sale off the little coil and get some or most of your money back. If you got that little coil used you may get all your money back.

So if somebody don't pop up close by pretty soon, if it were me I would start looking for a good quick deal on a little coil.

Ron in WV

 

[Lakota]

I forgot about the F70, those coils will work.

Just a thought, I discounted the coil from my F75 and fired it up, it came up with the normal start up display and after a few seconds it was pretty quiet, did get a few numbers to read. Lets say you do the same if the machine does pretty much the same as mine, we may want to assume that everything inside the control box is good.

So lets say best case, you order one of the small coils and the machine works, then you could do something with the 11"DD and be back hunting. Next best case, now if the machine didn't work with the little coil then your for sure would be sending the machine back to FT for repairs. At the end of the day you would be back in business. Now worse case, the machine is trash and can not be repair. You could sale off the little coil and get some or most of your money back. If you got that little coil used you may get all your money back.

So if somebody don't pop up close by pretty soon, if it were me I would start looking for a good quick deal on a little coil.

Ron in WV

WV. When I search for used 75 coils in the normal spots I seem to never find any used. I'm debating if I shouldnt just steam forward with my next machine purchase and figure things out with 75 at that point.

 

[hershey1]

Send it in. Call FT and ask for FELIX. Let us know.

 

[WV62]

I wouldn't give up on the F75, that sould be a pretty good machine even if you have to send it back for repairs. Also was wondering which F75 you have, is it the std or the Ltd with the boost processor?

Also would like to know how this ends up.

Ron in WV

I forgot about the F70, those coils will work.

Just a thought, I discounted the coil from my F75 and fired it up, it came up with the normal start up display and after a few seconds it was pretty quiet, did get a few numbers to read. Lets say you do the same if the machine does pretty much the same as mine, we may want to assume that everything inside the control box is good.

So lets say best case, you order one of the small coils and the machine works, then you could do something with the 11"DD and be back hunting. Next best case, now if the machine didn't work with the little coil then your for sure would be sending the machine back to FT for repairs. At the end of the day you would be back in business. Now worse case, the machine is trash and can not be repair. You could sale off the little coil and get some or most of your money back. If you got that little coil used you may get all your money back.

So if somebody don't pop up close by pretty soon, if it were me I would start looking for a good quick deal on a little coil.

Ron in WV

WV. When I search for used 75 coils in the normal spots I seem to never find any used. I'm debating if I shouldnt just steam forward with my next machine purchase and figure things out with 75 at that point.

 

[Lakota]

Cajun sent off the 5"DD yesterday. So I should know for sure that the coil was culprit.

Now I did mess with the 75 ( Standard model ) and placed my finger on the prongs at the coils connection point.. The machine started acting normal as I shifted my finger across the pins in its responses and numbers.

Also I did talk to someone at Fisher and got transfered to someones voice mail end of story there. Other the being told that this has happened before, water in the "water proof" coil.

Pretty confident the new coil will resolve my issue.

 

[Lakota]

CAJUN got the 5"DD to me in short order.. Thank you

I appreciate all the thoughts and help that went into this thread.

Oh and the Beast? IT LIVES .... AGAIN!

Side note. I knew the 5" was small, but dang! Looks like I have a hockey puck stuck to my beast

Thanks again guys

Lakota

 

[WV62]

Great, now what are we going to do with the 11"? If you are under warranty it would be time to contact FT and send it back, if no warranty I would still call FT and tell your story. Used 11" are pretty hard to find but the concentric 10" that comes on the F70 will work and you can find them.

If none of that sounds good you can get them new from a dealer.

You can do a post in the accessory classified this forum and see if anybody has one they would sale.


Ron in WV

 

[Lakota]

My 75 was used when I got it. So no luck on a warranty repair.

I'm thinking that the 75 is going to be assigned to trash duty for the time being since I'm locked onto a water machine that is high priority at this moment.

The Cutlass came out and shined like a million watt spot light this weekend and reminded me I can make awesome finds with my trusty back up the uMax scored two sterlings ( first silver chain bracelet ) and a 10k gold ladies ring.

So with the cutlass covering more ground it'll handle the medium trashy sights till I get around to getting another larger coil for the 75, was noting that there is a 13" DD out there for it now from fisher. Wonder how it is doing compared to the 11" bi-axle.

Anyone have first hand exp. With the 13"? Nonetheless coil buying for the 75 is on the back burner till I have my water machine.

Lakota

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Beg borrow or steal a like coil from a dealer , club member and try it...if it works its the coil if not time for a trip to the shop for repair.....

If a waterproof coil leaked its their fault if you some dunked or got water in the control box its your fault and imagine warranty would not cover the control box...

Might just give Fisher a call for advice...

Unfortunately water and electronics don't mix and if its fresh water may dry out in a week but if its salt water its gonzo....

 

[cometguy]

I am almost 90 percent sure that water is the culprit. I could actually turn mine upside down and get water out of the heel of the coil. Eventually I could hear water sloshing around. I killed my 775 stock coil and about a week later I killed the one on my G2. I sure wish I had known what killed the F75 before I killed the G2. Fisher took care of both of them, but I can tell you I haven't gotten them wet since they came back. Makes me wonder if I can trust them. It wold be nice if Fisher would issue an official response. I will tell you if you don't have the black bead looking sealer around the heel of your coil do not immerse it completely in water. Please keep us posted.

Don
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