Well got out and hunted with the Omega and the DD yesterday

[Keith Southern]

for about 8 hours and that may not sound like much but if you're not from the south you have to experience the humidity here to fully understand the meaning of sweating..Ha-Ha.

Wish I had something earth shattering to tell you but only got 2 keepers a token and a stirrup.and neither target was deep or masked they were in a spot I had never swung.

I stayed in the iron almost all day to no avail.Maybe I'm asking to much these sites I was in I have pretty much just hammered them into oblivion.lots of nails but Ive had the 1236 in these places and pretty much its just dead .I dug a ton of iffy hits but nothing all day was pulled in the dense iron nail's.

These places are not the type of areas a magazine field tester would go but I'm wanting something to out do what I already have so thats the way my testing will go.Ground reading was 71-76 in these sites with 1 fe bar.

I can tell you what the DD is doing for the omega though.

1-Target separation is just as good as the f-75/t-2 (close your eyes in 2 tone and you think you're swinging a t-2)

2-I'D' Seems tighter less jumpy better lock.

3-Deeper than the stock coil by a good measure air-testing

4- Sees more targets in the ground than the stock coil (I.E. more iron grunts compared to the stock coil also more iffy hits!!)

5- Still retains the ability to remain quite while sweeping the coil at max gain! ( I was worried the DD would eliminate this but It didnt)

6- Un-masking ability is on par with the big boys now.No difference

7- Slightly heavier than stock coil but still way lite.

These are some of the thing's I'm seeing .

Now for the life of me I dont understand why Teknetics would'nt put this coil on the Omega or any of the new models for that matter.They have the industry leading coil design by far . you know they spent some change designing that coil so why stick an inferior coil on the lower end machines.If I was them I would want the whole line of detectors to outdo the competition of a comparable model.

I'm sure theres more to it than I know but I just care about performance .And the Bi-axial coil is the best coil ever made at retaining depth and target separation together.Theres no equal.

sorry I dont have more right now but I'll try it the next few days and week to come.

Anyone else got any input on the Omega with DD ?? I have been reading between the lines on another forum and I belive they are wanting to implement the stability of the omega into the top of the line First texas detectors in the future .One guy is truly enamored with the stability in iron with the DD calling it the best yet.

Keith southern

 

[KurtB]

Thanks for the post Keith. Looks like I'm going to have to get one of those coils. I agree, the DD should be the stock coil.

Kurt

 

[Terry in PA]

Wonder if that DD coil will work on the f5?

 

[Jackpine Savage]

Hi Keith at this point do you see any advantages/disadvantages to the Omega's lower frequency vs the T2 in iron?

Tom

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

you may have inadvertently answered your own question and that of others around the stock coil of choice. You said you paid street price for the detector and the DD coil and that came to $750. While using that DD, and in just from your initial experiences and responses you've shared, you recognized the combo offers some of the more important performance elements on par with "the big boys" which I assume you mean the T-2 and F-75 (?) obviously without some of the additional bells and whistles but with more ease of control and less audio fatigue. So you wound up with at least "in the ballpark" performance with a detector and two coils for $50 less than a T-2 with one coil. And remember that the T-2 doesn't even offer the option of being able to run both concentric and DD's. I'm not slammin' the T-2 here...I own one and love it. Given that, and if it was my company, I'd be a little concerned that I'd potentially created a monster in some aspects to a degree and worry of the possibility of cannibalization of T-2 sales. If the Omega came with the DD as stock, it'd be even more risky. Obviously FT chooses to only offer the DD stock on the top of the line models and I suspect that's no accident. Now keep in mind that I don't have access to the inner workings of any detector manufacturing business in order to understand their marketing decisions, but the industry seems to be set up on somewhat "universal" price points. It seems to me that those points are pretty close together as it is so I can only imagine the challenge involved to try and make a new and hopefully superior product entry in any particular price point and yet insure there is no significant performance overlap to the one above. It looks to me that coils are one of the tools used to achieve that and under the current market design, a necessary "evil". Just a thought. Now would I like the best performing coil to be offered as stock? Sure! And I'd also like all the prices to be dropped by 75% but that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Keith thanks for the report. The fact that your seeing the O8 operate similar in heavy iron as the T2/F75 are good indicators. I believe my DD will land Monday,. If so I'll test it for a full day Tuesday.

Wonder if that DD coil will work on the f5?

I believe it will work fine on the F5 with an adapter. The O8 & F5 both use a frequency of 7.8 kHz, and early on it was rumored (announced?) that the optional O8 & F5 coils would be interchangeable, but then they changed the coil connector on the O8, but I believe the other new Tek machines share the same connector as the F5. Notice that the 8" round concentric on the new Tek platform is now being sold for the F5 too.

Anyone have a source for the coil connectors? If I can source the coil connectors, I'll put together an adapter and verify that the O8 DD works on my F5.

hh,
Brian

 

[Mike Scott]

The DD coil makes the Omega a better detector for some users just like it does on the F70 and the F5---for some users......
Many like concentric coils......
Its also more expensive and is the premier high performance high demand coil in the industry-it is 1/3rd the cost of the Tek Omega detector and equal the cost of a Tek Alpha detector so accesory coil sales are also important-----it also didnt even exist when the models were released.
Many buyers are not relic hunters and the 11

 

[blacktoe]

Good to see you posting Mike.

I am saving for the DD for my Omega and I am one of those coinshooters some look down their nose on as not real metal detectorists. It is a hobby and recreation to me. At this time it is also physical therapy. My doctor said it was perfect for that after having a hernia operation. I have learned to live with the bottlecap issue as I like the longer sweep and seperation of the DD.

I am very happy with my Omega and glad I got it. I also like having the choice of headphone jacks as it gets hot in Georgia in the summer.

I want to do some relic hunting this winter when the undergrowth dies down and the snakes go into their holes. They have some whoppers here. There was a 9'1" diamondback killed about 30 miles from here and they have a rattlesnake roundup every spring where hundreds are brought in from this area. I have killed one over 5' myself.

blacktoe