What do I have to do??

[Anonymous]

Today I was hunting a site that has gave me some
good coins in the past. Well I was hunting in advanced smart with the top middle and right hand
side accepted plus a small square for nickels because it's a bit trashy and I wanted to just get
the good signals.
I had the sensitivity at 22 manual with no falsing, recovery fast, audio normal, gain at 6 and was using the 10 inch coil.
I got a wonderful soft signal that repeated both
left to right and top to bottom. The depth gauge
showed around 8 inches or a little more. The crosshairs were high and right.
My usual procedure when checking a good signal like this is to have the back button linked to sounds. So I just push back and I can check the
signal in ferrous (a tip from Ralph), which I did
and the sound stayed high and sweet.
Then I push detect which after the first time will
jog you into digital which read 26 to 28.
It appeared to be a deep penny or a deep thin dime. The crosshairs never really went over the
top of the screen.
So I pinpointed the best I can and dug down 10 inches, nothing in the pile, went over the hole
again, target still there. Pinpointed again showed
maybe a little more to the right. So I peeled the
right side of the hole away and finally get a
buzz from my pinpointer at about 6 inches down
and it ends up being this crappy little nail(the
dime is shown just for size).
What do I have to do to avoid this besides running
in deep recovery? Is this just the nature of the
beast?
HHSlay

 

[Anonymous]

If it's what I think it is then it's one of those iron nials that are at just the right angle, depth, and halo to fool anyone and every one -no exceptions. Contrary to popular belief, there are some iron targets that you just can't tell that's what it is. I don't find them every time out but every so often I dig one and say "ya got me".
That might be what happened with finding that nail. One way to tell is if you start finding too many more in a short period time then it wasn't and you need to analyze the targets just a bit more.
I dig targets that resemble iron regularly and purposely(It's a calculated risk, I don't have to dig it), some deepies resemble iron somewhat so finding a few nials in my pouch is no big deal. I just don't dig those deep iron ones, they're killers and that's not part of my strategy.
If you get a high coin reading that's deep, pinpoint it as best you can and stop your coil over the target signal, then switch back to Disc mode and start to sweep again -the high coin tone should return with out you having to find it again, if it moved then it's most likely iron.
GL/HH

 

[Anonymous]

the nail? The Explorer is not fooled that often. I have seen and heard of many people getting good signals and when digging, come across nails. BUT, after removing the nail and sweeping back over the hole find that the signal is still there and is usually a good target. I was just curious if you rechecked that hole? HH BobK (SC)

 

[Anonymous]

you might have knocked the target to the bottom of the hole also, if it was reading that sweet from two directions doubt it was the nail. I dug a big nail myself today, and was ready to recover the hole, but decided to dig out a few more inches found a big bullet in the hole..not a coin but it was what I was hearing not the nail

 

[Anonymous]

Most of my targets i dug were nails untill I learned to check the signal from a 90 degree angle and if they were still the high pitched signal i had before I would dig, if not i will turn again and check it again. If it is questionable or if it sounds good and the crosshairs show to the left I still will dig as I would rather dig a nail than leave a good coin.
Just like any detector you cant belive the meter everytime and have to go by the sounds.
Rick

 

[Anonymous]

If you get a high coin reading that's deep, pinpoint it as best you can and stop your coil over the target signal, then switch back to Disc mode and start to sweep again -the high coin tone should return with out you having to find it again, if it moved then it's most likely iron.
Does this mean you are "Pinpointing" in Pinpoint mode? Is Detect mode what you mean for "switch back to Disc Mode"? It seems that a lot of Sov. language gets used with this new Explorer. With this new instrument we should use the terms of the Explorer. Only my view and not to meant to upset the pros.

 

[Anonymous]

Yes, you find the target in Detect mode, then switch to Pinpoint mode narrowing it down until the coil is centered right over the target then freeze the coil. Now switch back to Detect mode and start sweeping again. If the signal returns without you having to move the center to it again(meaning the target has not moved) then it's a goodie, but if you have to track it down again(meaning the target has moved) then it's most likely iron.
This is in general for the newbie, when you get use to the sounds and tones you will know what's good or bad target. In fact you will probably know when it's iron with out even using pinpoint at all. This is gained through experience. Oh yea, I guess I can't leave out that the cross-hairs bounce to the left side for iron, and the sound it makes is a high coin tone bouncing into a nulling then back to a high coin and so on. After enough hours you'll see what I mean, I may be defining it differently than others but the action is the same. This is more advanced in my veiw and there is a fine line between iron and coins when this bouncing around occurs, so making the decision to dig should come after a few conciderations as to the feasability like, are you tired, will you have to dig through concrete like soil, have the last three targets been iron, and this and that. Not basic stuff, but it's sometimes hard to tell if your helping a newbie to the hobby or a newbie to the XS.
BTW, I post with the hopes that if my message isn't clear that readers respond requesting that I clarify, so No offense is taken and thanks for pointing that out. I still like to call the XS a machine, am I bad <IMG SRC="/forums/images/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="">
Anyway, GL/HH

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks Mitch. I just got back from the park, and almost froze to death. I edited out all but top right of the screen. It was a lot less noise to deal with and got some good hits, top right screen that just stayed there, but again it came to the old Pinpoint. Dug three holes 6X6 10 to 12 inches deep, nothing. Still got good tones even holding coil 4 or more inches above it and
depth said about 8 to 10 inches. I think I need to order the 8 inch coil and cross my fingers. This park has given up lots of old coins, and I hear it null alot so I assume that it is trashy too. I have had two Fishers and the Sov and now the Explorer XS. Just working all week 5AM to 4PM doesn't allow only weekends to get out. Well two more years to my second retirement and then maybe I can really get into this.

 

[Anonymous]

AJ, If you lifted the coil 4"s above the ground and still got an 8 to 10" reading and that's the same as when the coil was right level with the ground then I would think it was a large Deep piece of steel/iron. One thing I have found is a real deep goodie reading say 7"s or less on the meter will be lost if I lift the coil 4"s or more above the ground, so I will not dig them and usually after further analyzing I realize that the signal is also more broad than I first noticed which I would suspect iron in that case. Again it is hard to discribe the sound but a goodie can be broad also only it isn't going to null as much.
GL/HH

 

[Anonymous]

Kinda newbie here,,Most important thing and hardest to do in andy's book is"forget anything u know about any other detector" I have dug only a few pieces of iron,(large)and virtually no nails unless they were tween me and the target,I am running in ironmask and checking with -artsmind.Ignoring high targets along border of ironmask reject.The few nails/screws I have dug were corroded but were galvanized,coated,or of an alloy,,Maybe yours was too,,Just guessin ,cs

 

[Anonymous]

I almost 'welcome' getting a nail outta the hole.

 

[Anonymous]

Hi Jim,
Yes I checked the hole after finding the
nail and there was no signal. Sure was
discouraging, but I found a swell silver
ring Sunday which picked my spirits
back up.
HH Slay

 

[Anonymous]

Today dashed out to a frens pasture,between much needed showers, to a site that had a burned down tenant home,probly circa 1900..Only had a few minutes however dug numerous corroded iron objects showin halfbox upper rt outa the brick hard ground, was wishing for the 8 inch coil..constant null situation due to nails,,ooof comeuppance,,,cs

 

[Anonymous]

Yes I use the Explorer Wiggle technic, I think
I've heard it called. When I said buzz from my
pinpointer I meant my hand held pinpointer and
detect mode is Disc. I've never used a Sov.
HH Slay