What I would like to see on the Cibola...

[Jackpine Savage]

Do away with the frequency shift toggle and add a tone control instead. Face it, the Cibola is just a little to slow for Comp hunting and since it is practically immune to RF why bother with a freq switch. Lets build on its strength instead... It has a pretty decent audio language in iron at low disc settings which it is hampered only by a slightly too low audio frequency IMO. Even if only a three position switch (Standard tone, 3:00 tejon tone and something in between) it would help immensely working in iron. I'm sure I will be sending mine in this winter to have it changed to a higher tone.

Tom

 

[Monte]

of the late-model Garrett ADS Deepseekers and a few others to include my XLT, a variable Tone control is one feature I feel every serious detector ought to offer. I agree with you 100% on this! I am not overly excited about the Cibola, but I do like the idea of improving offerings with what should really amount to a very simple addition during R&D.

Monte

 

[Jackpine Savage]

Monte,

Thanks for the reply. I am not done with testing the Cibola yet so my opinions have to be taken with a grain of salt. I do like the fact that it works around RF well. Last weekend I used it inside a large store that is being remodeled. Huge compressors running for the coolers and freezers (they have a large utility bill!)

The oldest section is being remodeled and the buckling concrete floor was torn out so that new stable fill could be added. Got a 1919 Candian dime. 1911(?) wheat and a 19?8 Buff in the old dirt under the concrete. I was using the 5.75" coil and she ran smooth as silk. I have been to other sites where 4 other machines were unstable do to interference where she also ran "pretty good".

Other pros:
Handled the iron around an old homestead, now a cornfield, better than my Fishers and the ML Advantage. Practically no falsing even when sweeping perhaps a tad too fast. I agree with your past posts, it is hard to keep a lightweight machine with small coils under control.
Excellent disc circuit, useable from minimum to the mark below iron depending on the site and what you are after. Quieter than my 1270 but I'm still not sure on the audio language when it comes to hearing possible non-ferrous targets on the edge of rejection due to being pulled down by iron. Yeah I admit thats kind of esoteric but not for us fresh water hunters. Where's that tone control?

Tom

 

[BarnacleBill]

very well stated Tom. It's that threshold level of rejection, (not to be confused with the threshold setting), that is where the rubber meets the road. Am I hearing a good target mixed with iron, or a large rusty iron piece breaking thru the disc? You can sure end up digging a lot of iron with a single tone none ID machine. That's what makes using the Excel so much easier than the S-Ray II, I literally have to force myself to pick up the S-Ray II when the Excel is available. But she don't swim so good.

Maybe working in iron I should put it this way, S-Ray = work, Excel = play. Are you experiencing the same with the Cibola?

BarnacleBill

 

[Jackpine Savage]

quite. A lot may have to do with using those "noisy" 1200 Fishers for so long. I used to have a LST when the 1270 came out and actually took the 1270 quicker as far as interpreting sounds. Everybody is different I guess. The LST was excellent when it came to large solid iron like axeheads ect. Had a distinct ring to the tone, great for relic type hunting where you want that kind of stuff. The Cibola is similar to the 1270 but quieter and more subtle. More like listening to a soft spoken (yet charming) woman than the ruckus of the 1270.

I may just pitch em all and go back to the 1236X2. Found more low Kt gold in the shallows with that than anything else since. Good beep = scoop works great in iron of all sizes. Dang - decisions decisions.

Tom

 

[Carol]

brand new out of the box Cibola! Will post my finds if I ever get out there to hunt!

 

[Monte]

Happy Hunting! Just remember, if you use the nice 5.75" coil that you need a slower sweep. Too fast a sweep with most Tesoro's and other 2-filter units can cause a loss in performance.

Monte