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What is next???

Low-Boy/LCPM

Active member
Since things are slow and the ground is hard and good places to detect are getting a bit harder to find what do you think is next?

Does the T2 stay the only detector in their line for a few years or do they have something ready to come out so they can have a line of detectors? Some say it will be a higher priced machine maybe with a few coils ready to go.

Some don't care because they are so happy with the T2 that they don't want anything new for awhile. As I have said before I think this could be the year for things to pop.

It seems the T2 took the detecting world by storm it was inovative and fresh and the design was the next step in helping to unmask the hidden targets that have been hiding under our feet for so many years!

Anyway I was just thinking about what is around the corner for Christmas?

Thanks

Lawrenzo
 
Hey Lawrenzo,

I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure you saw that thread where someone mentioned that it is pretty certain the next detector will be higher end. Forget where I saw it, but it was related from someone inside I believe. I'm sure, partly due to what the T2 can do, others will release something great. Can you imagine a much improved and balanced explorer II? But the T2 adds price benefit, where as explorer just excludes people with the high price. Maybe the multiple frequencies aren't needed as we can see with the T2.

What I am wondering is what the T2 will do with the "upgraded" (is it) eproms or chips? What features do you want? Memory to me is not an issue at all, it is just to fast to set up. I now leave my detector on when I hunt so that's not an issue. Each hunt is new so I spend the 10 seconds or less to set it up. Another few modes would be cool! We might need submenues if we get up there. :lol: Any ideas here?

What I was wanting to do is to create a poll here on what features are important for us (in the T2 and where not possible in thier next detector). Maybe we can start it off in a new thread and Teknetics can listen to what we are saying. For starters:

1. Night light - This is a must have. If they are concerned about battery life it can be run off a separate batter or have that option.

2. Smaller coil - I want to see what it can do, but is it necessary?

3. Memory - not for me, but I can understand some people would want it.

4. Choice of frequencies or multiple frequencies. Look what a minelab can do with them and look what T2 can do without... one can imagine what a T2 can do with em too.

5. Notching (not for me, not in a foreign country knowing where coins fall, but for others, yes.)

6. I WANT A SLOW MODE CHECK! Just push a button to investigate and keep the trigger as is to pinpoint and size. Maybe push a button and pull the trigger (sort of like to change freq). I miss being able to really focus in on a target. T2 does a great job as it is, but "slow mode" would be cool, and wouldn't exclude those who like it slow. :blush:

7. Easily removable chips (designed like a SAN disk) for upgrades and add on modules. Think, others could write software for it! Sort of like what game developers do, could create an awesome amount of flexibility. Mailing your detector in is a bit much, especially from overseas.

8. I'm worried the pull trigger may break, make a more durable one. When you are holding the detector one might pull a bit too hard, especially if you are trying to push the head into the grass (you lose feel for the pressure you are applying).

9. New head cord design. Run the detecting head cord through the handle and make it so that you can just "plug in" a new head (like with next to no rod attached).

10. Clock function and time spent detecting would be cool. Could have a running total of time spent detecting, interesting option for those selling/buying machines...

11. GPS for those advanced hunters. :crazy:

12. Some form of target memory function to note what the target read in the ground. It could store the last 10 targets dug. So, before you dig you just press a button while pinpointing and walla. (only if you want, so complexity is kept low) Cool! :cheers:
Maybe you could program it then to ID (according to your program) you what it might be your digging??? So e.g. a 67-73 ID for me is a 40's Deutsches Reich.

13. Water bottle holder (ok, I'm kidding, but I added one to my T2 to give it that serious look).

14. Swing counter, I mean bikes have mile counters. So, one could say, "I did 1000 swings yesterday, you?" (kidding)

15. Getting to all metal mode with a button instead of going through the disc menu back up to top. (I'd use it more, as I don't generally hunt in it, but investigate) Have the fade rate adjustable, could be like a pinpoint/investigate sort of.

How about a machine that is just not great, but groundbreaking in another, no so typical fashion, but very very usable. Like what Apple computers did for computing or Linux is doing more and more of.
Smoking the competition,

Earthmansurfer "Too much time on my hands"
 
[quote Mike Hillis]I got my telescope paid for and now I'm putting some cash back for next year.[/quote]

Tell me about your telescope... :D

-Bill
 
Bill, I picked out the Orion SkyQuest XT10 Intelliscope. Its a 10" Dobsonian. I fiqured I could detect the earth by day and detect the heavens by night :lol: I'm placing the order next week. Yippee!!!!

HH
 
Man, a telescope of that quality has been on my wish list for a long long time. Too long as a matter of fact! Like many decades. :) My T2 has pretty well satisfied my detector itch at least until Troy and or someone else brings out something new that raises the bar. I think maybe the time for a scope purchase is finally drawing near. :thumbup:
 
I too burn my candle at both ends. My observatory and scope are in the images at...

My scope - http://www.pbase.com/bellwoodmder/skunk_hollow_observatory

Main webpage - http://webpages.charter.net/paastroman/

What I have in detectors isn't anything compared to my astro arsenal... :bouncy:

-Bill
 
Very nice setup you got there :hot: Enjoyed all the pictures.

Guess you know I might bug you ever now and then since I've seen your enthusiasm for star gazing :)

HH
 
Go for it Brad. $650 online plus shipping. Thats less than the cost of a minelab clad detector :bouncy: Troy will understand. He's made us wait this long for a singing X5, so he can wait a few months for us to buy one after he gets one ready :devil:

Besides...think about the star parties :cheers: You can host the star party that night and detect it the next morning :crazy: Only problem will be looking at a planet and wondering what would make your T2 beep there :laugh:

HH
 
Thanks, I am glad you like my setup. Congrats on your new scope. I had a Meade 10" Dob for close to 8 years in addition to my bigger scope. I just sold it in the spring because I rarely used it and I needed money to finance another toy... :) Feel free to email me anytime about astro stuff. I like talking about it as much as I do detecting. There is a good collection of forums on astronomy at

http://www.cloudynights.com/index.php

There are alot of friendly people on that site... alot like these forums.

Anyways, getting back to the T2. I own it and the Explorer and CZ-3D. It's a combo that I would say is extremely hard to beat in my area. I love something about each machine. My T2 has been running awesome the last few outings. The operator ( ;) ) is really starting to click with the machine now. Like I said over in the Explorer Classroom... don't discount the semi-auto sensitivity. Have a good one and enjoy the new scope. BTW, were do you live? I'm mainly asking because there is a 'new' scope curse. Clouds roll in and stay long enough to drive you insane. I was interested in what MY forecast looked like... I hope I don't live too close... :lol: :lol: :lol:

-Bill
 
Here is a used one on ebay guys ($400 buy it now)...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orion-XT10-Dobsonion-Reflector-Telescope_W0QQitemZ270017973277QQihZ017QQcategoryZ28181QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Earthmansurfer
 
n/t
 
n/t
 
I dont have either but am leaning towards the T2, I want a deep, light and well balanced machine for the sites I dig, the T2 sounds like just the thing
 
Come on guys, outside of the GPS and "swings count" I came up with some pretty innovative features for a new detector. What would you want. I'm sure Teknetics read this board on occasion...

Earthmansurfer
 
The T2 is a step in the right direction...it took the best machines from the past and gave us depth and speed and helped with masking. It has a wonderful coil that covers a lot of ground and at the sometime acts like a small coil.

If they could come out with a small coil that does everything the big coil does then watch out.

Since I started this I would say the new T? should have multy freq...
Maybe a switch so you could go from say 15KHz to 100KHz for iron.

A way to upgrade with software so it is not closed ended. You can buy the chip and install it yourself. This way you don't have to shell out hard earned money to buy a new detector but shell out a lot less and upgrade!

I think this company has a chance to move to the front of the line and share a place with Minelab in America and in Europe. The big boys have made a few mistakes so there is room for someone to move to the top.

A filter control or a filter that works like the compass!

And give us help with trash and gold, a better way to hear the difference or measure the difference between the flips and pulls and and shreds of aluminium and help us find gold some new way?

Night light
 
and that is into 3D. There isn't anywhere else to go :shrug:

The industry is already on the edge. Garrett can give you a size fairly reliably up to a certain depth. Minelab can give you a 2 dimensional look as far as conductivity/ferrous content. The T2 can give a picture of ground mineralization as well as the needed target separation. Everyone can give a picture of depth. Everyone can call the ferrous/non-ferrous. All the components are there, someone just needs to put it all together into one picture.

Picture this.

I make a full left right sweep followed by the return right left sweep. My LCD displays every signal in the ground in a 3 dimensional box display , its relationship to every other signal, and some predominate characteristics of each signal. I review the data, touch the screen to focus on a particular signal which loads a new display and I sweep again. This time the only area containing the signal I chose to focus on will create a response for the display and I get greater detail about the signal.

That may seem far fetched but the technology is already here. Someone just needs to put it together into a package we can afford to buy. Many of us already spend a couple of thousand on detectors today. Whats to keep up from spending it on one machine if that one machine is truly innovative and takes the hobby to the next step.

The only issue with this 3D concept that I'm aware of is currently we can't tell the difference between small/tiny items vs deep items by signal strength. Another processing component has to be developed to overcome this before 3D would really be functional. However, it could still work with the operator knowing that that type of signal could be small or deep.

HH

Mike
 
Great idea Mike with the 3D (like yours too lcpm),
Mike, I was thinking about the depth issue the other day. Would it be possible to have another signal simultaneously being used to help with this? Sort of like how triangulation works with satellites? Imagine the main coil and then 2 or 3 small pulse induction coils above or to the side. They could compare results and the pulse could not only help with depth/location, but with better id I would imagine.

You are correct, the technology is there. Thank god this hobby isn't any more popular (too much competition, though we'd have better detectors I imagine). I mean, I can't believe a great company like Fisher sold for a few million.

At what point is the fun gone though? We are not anywhere near that yet, but I can imagine approaching that with imagining stuff. The fun would then be in using the technology...

Earthmansurfer
 
That is a great idea maybe too great but boy it would put some companies back in the race and I mean big time. The detector sees multy targets check them all out. You find the target you want to get more info on, the detector locks on just that target gives you the info and you dig if you like what you see:yo: you dig it. Now how far can they go with pulse induction? You would have to have a fast response to get multy targets and separate them and then analyze the target you want. Some way to give us more target info like what Whites does and Minelab but the next step!!!
 
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