what is the real difference between a fisher and say a whites or minelab?....

[Anonymous]

I'm sticking my neck out here because I usually post
on the minelab,white's,relic forums......you fisher guys seem pretty cool so I'll solicit your advice....
...when you detect for long periods of time you pick up things that go beyond all the technical jargon....or maybe its a different way to learn the technical stuff.......for an example that an explorer can be slower on the
recovery........................
for those of you that have used the fishers for a long time i'd like to know your opinions on what makes it different than a whites or explorer,etc.
Please no kilohertz,gigawhatz stuff......just simple opinions of any nature would be appreciated...
oh yea..........and no "it just finds more stuff,dude"-.........you already know that. lol lol
it not the equipment-its the technique---at least thats what my wife used to say.............aloha

 

[Anonymous]

Why do i like Fisher better than?? The main reason i went with Fisher is I think it is the ruggest built of many, works very good and i liked the lifetime warranty, very rugged, i hate lightweight flimsy, and also complex machines <img src="/metal/html/glasses.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">

 

[Anonymous]

Yep Bugar you are on the ball, user friendly, deep, well made units with lifetime warranties sure have some excellent aspects..Perhaps trying to compare apples to oranges and many have their favorites but Fishers surely have some nice aspects.Many top of the line units from different manufactures look like toys, don't have the depth, break down easily, need a college degree to operate and one actually has a one year warranty on the coil and even less on some of the cosmetics so choose wisely...

 

[Anonymous]

Been givin some mighty strong thought on gettin nother CZ5, durn, they are good, and tuff enough to use as a weapon, should you be attacked by a mob <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
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[Anonymous]

Might suggest a digital version as they have a superior notch system along with the weather resitant feature. CZ5's go on and on like the energizer rabbit so doubt you'll need a backup...

 

[Anonymous]

I got to where i very seldom notch anymore, works purty good where i been a detectin round here. <img src="/metal/html/indifferent.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":|">
When i'm round beaches (very seldom) I notch <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">

 

[Anonymous]

Until a couple of months ago I was using a machine that I had bought in 1985. I thought that I was LONG overdue for a new machine. Over the years I have had many hunting buddies that have had different machines, I would use theirs, they would try mine, etc. When I became serious about buying a new detector last summer I considered ALL Manufacturers of metal detectors and many different models. I called all the manufacturers for SPEC. sheets, I talked with my hunting buddies and asked what they liked or did not like w/ their machines, etc. After serious and careful consideration I narrowed it down to a Fisher metal detector, then finally picked the CZ70 pro and recieved it about 6 weeks ago.
Repeating as others have said, it came down to:
1) Performance of detector
2) Quality of workmanship and constrution of the detector
3) Simplicity to learn and use
4) The features and diversity of the detector
5) The battery life
6) The weight of the unit
7) And most importantly, the LIFETIME WARRENTY. (Fisher has been in business since 1931) To me, any company that has been around that long and offers a lifetime warranty on their product tells me that they are very confident in their products.
TRUST ME WHEN I SAY THIS,I did the research. I studied and tried different detectors from different makers very long and hard until I chose the Fisher cz70. (I must give credit to ALL the people on this forum for giving me opinions on Fisher products as well)
Good Luck
Jay

 

[Anonymous]

I think all three of the manufacturers that you named build some excellent instruments. There are a few other manufacturers that build excellent instruments as well.
I think you'll agree that the area where one hunts has a lot to do with the perceived performance from any unit. Soil conditions play a major role in the results obtained. What might work well in the South Eastern part of the country, might not work worth a hoot here where I hunt, and visa versa.
I think that some of the traits that make certain Fisher detectors popular are their high build quality, their ability to work well under various soil conditions, their lifetime warranty and their undeniable performance.
Having said that, I believe that certain models from manufacturers such as Whites, Minelab, Tesoro, Garrett, DetectorPro and Bounty Hunter have some of those same qualities, under the right conditions.
Some of my thoughts on various units I use, or have used:
Fisher CZ's:
Very fast target response recovery.
Excellent depth in high mineralization.
Fisher 1270:
Incredible depth.
How many do you see in the classifieds?
Fisher GoldStrike:
A real sleeper. High performance.
How many do you see in the classifieds?
Fisher CoinStrike:
Didn't work well for me, in my soil.
Learning curve too steep. Too many adjustments.
Fisher ID-Excel:
Great light weight unit.
Moderate depth, in my soil.
Target ID was solid/accurate.
Whites MXT:
Love it for relic hunting.
Love the relic mode audio.
Moderate depth, in my soil.
Great all around unit.
Excellent nugget hunter.
Whites XL Pro:
Best analog meter ever!
Excellent all around price/performance.
Fast ground coverage.
How many do you see in the classifieds?
Minelab Sovereign/Excalibur:
Great all around unit.
Didn't like the iron masking.
Search speed too slow.
Best I've used on wet Salt Water beach.
Minelab Explorer:
Didn't work well for me, in my soil.
Learning curve too steep. Too many adjustments.
Tesoro uMax units:
Extremely light weight. Hunt all day.
Moderate depth, in my soil.
Simple operation.
Tesoro StingRay II:
Excellent sensitivity to small gold.
Moderate depth, in my water.
Well there's a few opinions. You asked for them. <img src="/metal/html/grin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":grin"> I think that just about any model, from any of the major manufacturers has potential. The key is in taking the time to really learn your machine, and building confidence with it. If you know what the machine is telling you, and you have the confidence in it, the rest is up to where you put the coil. Research is still the number one reason for success or failure. If you research the right locations instead of hunting the same places that have been hunted for the last 30-40 years, you have a much better chance of making those enviable finds.
My current arsenal includes:
Whites MXT - my primary relic hunter.
Whites XL Pro - general all around hunting.
DetectorPro Wader - fresh water hunter.
Fisher 1270 - my depth demon.
Tesoro Vaquero - coming soon.
Hope this helps.
Good Hunting,
<STRONG><EM>Otto...</EM></STRONG>

 

[Anonymous]

I see many similarities on your feelings of various units. Whats stands out to me is your evaluation of Coinstrike and Explorer which to most has a long learning period. I guess thats why they make user friendly units and personal preferences sure do come into play relative the unit they use and for the most part Fisher units are in the user friendly category.

 

[Anonymous]

The ground here is what I consider mild to moderate. On the MXT in prospecting mode it reads from 50-65.
Fisher 1270. I agree with Otto this is one deep machine. With the 10.5" coil it is unbeatable. Best used with smaller coils in iron of course. The iron disc mode is great and what I use 99% of the time. Audio response on good targets is unmistakeable which is a good thing since it is quite noisy in iron at low disc settings.
CZ's. Love the those tones! So easy to understand and use. Iron is not the problem some claim once you learn how to ID it. Its been said many times the CZ is one of the easiest to use of the deeper coins machine. Depth in my ground is above average but not outstanding, 8-9" is about it here.
Coinstrike. Love it or hate it but it works well here. Better depth than the CZ's and I do not consider it hard to use at all. Depthwise coil for coil it will compete with the 1270 in my ground and ID's the deep stuff good enough to suit me. I prefer it to the 1270 in areas where the iron and trash is heavy. Above average sensitivity to small stuff too. Sold the CZ and don't miss it.
1236X2. Moderate depth but adequate for what it does best, working in heavy iron. This thing has great audio combined with the quickest recovery of any machine I have used. Others talk about iron "see thru", but this one "gits-r-dun". <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
HH Tom

 

[Anonymous]

I only wish my ground was that mild. Here it registers in the high 70's to mid 80's with the MXT.
Good Hunting, you lucky dog.
<STRONG><EM>Otto...</EM></STRONG>
ps. I need more info from you on using the 1270 in the water. <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">

 

[Anonymous]

but right now I'm headed out to do a little wading with it. <img src="/metal/html/wink.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
Tom

 

[Anonymous]

I agree with Dan... nice post. I agree on the Coin$trike. I put alot of hours in on the one I had and never could get results like I wanted. But, the Explorer isn't as complicated as some people think. The Explorer is my choice in iron.
-Bill

 

[Mike (Virginia Beach)]

Just out of curiosity, what do you notch on the beaches? That's the one place that it pays to dig it all.