WHAT IS THIS GUY DOING?

[littlenugget]

Just found this on youtube, [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-OJL6oPGYs[/video]



I just ordder coil 7.5 dd 10.5 do i have to make a fp when i put the new coil

 

[littlenugget]

ooops forgot at 1:40 starts!!!

 

[hotrod53]

I'm wondering if that is the master reset routine that is mentioned in the manual?

 

[littlenugget]

master reset? on what page of manual?

 

[Old Longhair]

It is a total reset, but not one that is described in the manual. The manual only shows incremental resets, not the one step method in the video, which may also be a system diagnostic check.

Maybe Randy can shed a little more light on this.

 

[michaelosully]

littlenugget... No, you do not need to do a FP every time you change the coil. As the 705 manual explains on page 53, while detector is off, change out the coil, then turn on Power and your X-Terra will recognize the coil or give you a error message. You may 'want' to change some presets since you are using a different coil than previously, but you do not 'need' to.

I also cannot find a "master reset" hotrod refers to in the manual. Factory Presets (FP) is explained on page page 46/47 but I do not see a reference to a "master reset" or to the procedure demonstrated on the video. From what I understand and read, FP (holding down the menu/select button when powering on the unit) will only return the unit to factory preset values...nothing about diagnostics.

Old Longhair, if this is a "total reset", where might I find information on this procedure and what is does for the user (i.e. diagnostics)??? I too would like more information on the demo shown in the video clip as originally asked by littlenugget.

 

[Old Longhair]

Old Longhair, if this is a "total reset", where might I find information on this procedure and what is does for the user (i.e. diagnostics)??? I too would like more information on the demo shown in the video clip as originally asked by littlenugget.

I believe that it is one of those undocumented hidden features, kind of like the procedure to measure mineralization that BarnacleBill wrote up. I doubt that you'll find any reference to it anywhere.

What I can tell from the video, is that it does a system self-check, as well as a full reset. Could be the sort of thing that one might try before sending a goofy machine back for service, but not what I'd recommend doing as periodic maintenance.

 

[littlenugget]

Hello thanks for your response well i thought why not use the google translator , this is from the guy who uploaded the video

Elimination of potential problems with the metal detector Minelab X-Terra 705: how to get rid of unnecessary glitches coil, reset the device to factory settings and start the test mode detector

And this is from the guy who answered

Forgot to add the thing: if you think that the new coil bought such NEL or other, not entirely stable - need to reset to factory settings and start the diagnostics mode. After that experience has shown that in many cases, the device will work stably with the new coil! Hits!

 

[littlenugget]

oopsss sorry its the same guy who uploaded the video the one that i said who answered

 

[hotrod53]

I thought that it was in the manual, I may be mistaken. My brother, Mapper65, performed a master reset at the factory's suggestion on one of our machines. He may be able to confirm that this is the sequence.

 

[Old Longhair]

Pages 46 & 47 in the manual outline resetting the factory presets, but that's it.

 

[Digger]

Each time you turn on the X-TERRA, it establishes communication with, and performs an "alignment" with, the smart coil. This "alignment" optimizes the operating parameters and mazimizes the performance of the X-TERRA,with that specific coil.
You can reset the X-TERRA to factory preset levels (FP, as outlined on pages 46 & 47 in the 705 manual) But these FP levels have nothing to do with coil specific performance. They are operational settings/ Patterns and/or Mode settings. So from that aspect, I see no reason to incorporate both reset and "alignment" with one process. At least not if you are using an Authorized coil.
With the exception of what has been discussed regarding this video, I am not familiar with any procedure that incorporates a Factory reset with coil "alignment". My guess is that this may be a procedure "discovered" by someone trying to make their non-authorized coils work better with their X-TERRAs? But again, that is purely a guess on my part. JMHO HH Randy

 

[michaelosully]

Thanks to littlenugget for bringing this 'procedure' to my attention and to Old Longhair, Digger, and hotrod53 for providing insight on what this procedure might do. Would still like to hear from Mapper65 if this was a factory 'prescribed' diagnostic test and what, if anything the procedure might reveal about the control unit, the attached coil, and the current operation of the total 'package'.

Since little useful 'hard data' seems to be available...I'll not be doing what is demonstrated in the video. Easier and quicker to just attached the Minelab coil and power on when holding down the menu button to reestablish FPs.

 

[mapper65]

Hi guys, the reset that I just did on one of our machines was actually all three of the resets described in the 705 book on page 47.

Menu Factory Preset
Mode Factory Preset
Patterns Factor Preset

We have a detector that's acting a little funky as far as the sensitivity goes so I figured that I would just wipe everything out and start over being that it only take a few minutes to set everything back up. I personally haven't tried the detector after performing the resets and reprogramming so I'm not sure if it did any good or not.

Not sure what the guy in the video is doing, I haven't watched the video close enough to see what key strokes he is doing. That might be a double top secret mode that turns the detector into an E-Trac. ha ha ha

 

[hitchhiker]

whats the chequered flag symbol mean that appears between the dollar coin icon and the prospecting pick icon? im not sure ive seen this symbol before couldn't see it in the handbook. im not talking about the umbrella icon that appears further along. It appears at 2;40 on the video

 

[Old Longhair]

whats the chequered flag symbol mean that appears between the dollar coin icon and the prospecting pick icon? im not sure ive seen this symbol before couldn't see it in the handbook. im not talking about the umbrella icon that appears further along. It appears at 2;40 on the video

It looks like a SmartFind icon. So I would speculate that the sae display screen is used on more than one machine, and it's just unused on the Xterra. It may light up in this video just because it's doing a full self diagnostic/reset/alignment.

 

[michaelosully]

Whats the chequered flag symbol mean that appears between the dollar coin icon and the prospecting pick icon? im not sure ive seen this symbol before couldn't see it in the handbook. im not talking about the umbrella icon that appears further along. It appears at 2;40 on the video

It looks like a SmartFind icon. So I would speculate that the sae display screen is used on more than one machine, and it's just unused on the Xterra. It may light up in this video just because it's doing a full self diagnostic/reset/alignment.

Again, I need to raise the question about 'what, if any, real 'diagnostics' are being performed with the procedure?

I understand when Randy talks about 'coil alignment' (syncing coil w/unit) and I understand 'FP' (resetting the various settings back to factory), but to me these are alignment steps and presets (internal programs)...these are not 'diagnostics'.

Old Longhair: By using the word 'diagnostic', to me it means you are going to get a report on the condition. Could the checkered flag be the 'diagnostic report' saying that the control unit & coil are working to factory standards or are performing at optimum operating standards according to an 'internal factory diagnostic check'? ... Or, do you suppose the checkered flag is just signaling the end of this specific procedure being run?

Thanks hitchhiker for spotting the checkered flag symbol on the video, I had missed it previously. And thanks in advance to Old Longhair.

 

[Old Longhair]

I can only speculate.
It appears to me that it's running through each circuit of the system prior to the reset and alignment, as sort of a self test. I probably shouldn't have called it a diagnostic.

TBH, I didn't pay attention to when it appears in the sequence, so I can't even speculate if it is an indicator of completion, an OK, or just an unused screen function (like a SmartFind icon) that is part of the display's self test.