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What to choose...
- Thread starter the Swede
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Andy Sabisch
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The question of choosing between an Excal or a PI detector for hunting shallow water comes down to how much ferrous trash you are willing to dig.
The Excal and the Fisher CZ-21 (20 if you find one) handle salt and black sand with minimal adjustments . . . . . ground balancing is not an issue with either one. The XZ has a simple adjustment and the Excal does it automatically. They have a full range of discrimination so you can dial in what you feel you need.
The PI detectors do have an edge on detection depth but you do hear everything . . . . . and on beaches that are shared with fishermen, you can find sme real deep fish hooks (take my word for it!)
It comes down to the sites you will be hunting. If raw depth is the more important factor for you, then a PI will give that to you. On the other hand, if you want the flexibility of discrimination, then a CZ or Excal may tip the scale.
I have used (and own) all three . . . . and have found coins at 15"+ with all of them.
Hate to not give you a black and white answer but I am sure others will also provide you with their perspective.
Hope this helps
Andy Sabisch
The Excal and the Fisher CZ-21 (20 if you find one) handle salt and black sand with minimal adjustments . . . . . ground balancing is not an issue with either one. The XZ has a simple adjustment and the Excal does it automatically. They have a full range of discrimination so you can dial in what you feel you need.
The PI detectors do have an edge on detection depth but you do hear everything . . . . . and on beaches that are shared with fishermen, you can find sme real deep fish hooks (take my word for it!)
It comes down to the sites you will be hunting. If raw depth is the more important factor for you, then a PI will give that to you. On the other hand, if you want the flexibility of discrimination, then a CZ or Excal may tip the scale.
I have used (and own) all three . . . . and have found coins at 15"+ with all of them.
Hate to not give you a black and white answer but I am sure others will also provide you with their perspective.
Hope this helps
Andy Sabisch
GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va
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All I want to take to the beach is my PI. I have used a HH wader, surfmaster Pi ,and HH Pi If I am going to walk it I am going to find all I can trash and all. I have dug stuff with the Pi's when others didn' t find anything.
They do dig deeper than non pi"s... 1 was a small wire 10k heart ring w/ice at 18 in and a small 925 rope neckless at about 20ins. you can contact sharkhunter to check that out I was using the HH Pi
With the whites surfmaster PI you can swing alittle faster than the HH PI. I bought both to try the HH Pi is more sens.. too small gold than the whites but I am going to still sell the HH Pi
Hopes this helps
Michael aka Fieldboy
They do dig deeper than non pi"s... 1 was a small wire 10k heart ring w/ice at 18 in and a small 925 rope neckless at about 20ins. you can contact sharkhunter to check that out I was using the HH Pi
With the whites surfmaster PI you can swing alittle faster than the HH PI. I bought both to try the HH Pi is more sens.. too small gold than the whites but I am going to still sell the HH Pi
Hopes this helps
Michael aka Fieldboy
Chi Town Bruce
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Andy Sabisch
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I hate to say how many detectors I have in various configurations . . . . . the Sovereign with the WOT or even the Excelerator coil gets amazing depth on the beaches of SC where I tend to hunt more often. With the amount of ferrous trash from Hugo in 1989, it makes using a PI very challenging unless you want a full workout.
On the other hand, I have found that a PI detector on the south Florida beaches has given me an edge over my CZ-20 or Excal. But there are some great hunters in those areas that make great finds with them. The PI's are a tad more sensitive to the small stuff but once you get into rings, the edge is harder is distinguish
Heck, on fresh water sites, the Tiger Shark is unstoppable when it comes to charms and chains . . . some of which the CZ & Excal will not hit even when the target touches the coil.
Again, if there were one detector that did it all, my wife for one would be a lot happier . . . . . use what works for you in your area and for your style of hunting,
Andy
On the other hand, I have found that a PI detector on the south Florida beaches has given me an edge over my CZ-20 or Excal. But there are some great hunters in those areas that make great finds with them. The PI's are a tad more sensitive to the small stuff but once you get into rings, the edge is harder is distinguish
Heck, on fresh water sites, the Tiger Shark is unstoppable when it comes to charms and chains . . . some of which the CZ & Excal will not hit even when the target touches the coil.
Again, if there were one detector that did it all, my wife for one would be a lot happier . . . . . use what works for you in your area and for your style of hunting,
Andy
SharkHunter
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SharkHunter
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If you want to find things you need to learn what you are using!
prospector 55
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Go with a PI unit it will find stuff the other VLFs will never see, I don't care if other people think a VLF is just as deep as a PI they are not even close, and the tesoro Sand shark will outperform the Tiger shark in any situation. All VLF units see all large galvanized iron as a good target using the disc, and large iron that is very deep 6-10 inches will register as a good target to a VLF so you will dig lots of trash anyway unless it is very shallow, I took four of my VLF detectors down to the black sand fresh water beach and that is how they all performed, no matter how any of them were set, The PI will outperform all the minelab FBS multi frequency machines, so if you really want to find stuff buried deep than the PI is the unit for you, also if you are a certified scuba diver like my self most PIs are submersable. Happy hunting
The Prospector
The Prospector
