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what tricks other then xy

The frequency shift is pretty reliable for bottle caps but not so great for big alluminum , I usually have to go with tones for it.
I recommend not notching out 97.
I'm sure dirt factors in , and mine has lots of iron , but I repeatedly find myself digging 18 khz 97s and coming up with stacks of clad quarters , especially if the 4khz VDI drops down to 89 or so. Do a test for yourself.
 
YES I HERE YOU

going to play around with notching to see how it works. but some areas need something because of all the trash. need a good game plan

4 them trash spots. i guess after a few month i will come up with a game plan !


bob
 
That's a basket full of tricks to carry and not so fool proof. The unit does have decent depth. I love the weight but digging all that junk sucks. You can't walk away from all of it and if you do someone is going to come behind you and profit. If I understood some of the above posts, the company is working on a program to address this issue.
 
YES !
we do allote of digging as we learn a new detector..tricks and tips are GREAT ,but it takes experance and hard work to earn your masters!!



bob
 
Please Please. Everyone digs junk no matter the the make or model of machine. Anyone who says otherwise is just a liar OR cherry picking SO bad that they are Missing half of what's there. Digging Junk is part of the deal. Nobody said you had to like it. There are ways to lessen the junk totals but they require you to actually READ the MANUAL and spend time to LEARN your unit. Work at it. Can't do it? Going from one unit to another and Learning NONE of them is no answer.

Read the Manual and any other books.
Spend Time Learn the unit you have.
Do research to find better sites and better finds.
Less time on the internet more time swinging the coil. The internet makes you think everyone is finding great stuff every day because all you see is the good stuff. Trust me they aren't finding great stuff every day or every week OR month. It takes time research and effort.

Try Fishing or Golf or maybe Stamp Collecting.
 
TODD

give them HELL !! i agree JUNK is part of the game no one likes it , but this is the only way to learn in the begining ! YES ASK QUESTIONS and go into the field

and give it a try. no sure thing in this game, wen you know what all the settings do, you will make up, your own technics !!
 
I've been doing this since the mid 60s. Doesn't mean that I've done it right but there have been several detectors through my hands. Yes, practice will make a difference. The XP hits on junk about as good as any of them. At my age I don't have a lot of time to learn. This is a interesting machine and is about as deep as any of them but needs work in discrimination area. Not intent to run this machine down because it is a good unit.but could be helped.
Run a E-trac over the same area as you do the XP. Hard to compare.
 
KEEP THAT DETECTOR IN YOUR HANDS

24/7 and you will master with your exp you will have no probllem !! and i am also in my 60s REMBER ITS NOT OVER TILL ITS OVER !!

there are no experts here just hard core SWINGERS !! have fun and enjoy !




BOB
 
chasia said:
I've been doing this since the mid 60s. Doesn't mean that I've done it right but there have been several detectors through my hands. Yes, practice will make a difference. The XP hits on junk about as good as any of them. At my age I don't have a lot of time to learn. This is a interesting machine and is about as deep as any of them but needs work in discrimination area. Not intent to run this machine down because it is a good unit.but could be helped.
Run a E-trac over the same area as you do the XP. Hard to compare.
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At your age it's time to learn the Deus because the Etrac will make your arm fall off. I hunted a Etrac for years and still own a CTX that I wouldn't part with.
The Deus will run with them all day long and you won't need any pain meds at the end of the day. How much time do you have? You learned the computer you will get this if you stay with it.
 
Oh, I've no doubt that I'll learn this machine and part of the reason I went to it was the weight. I think that one of the best parts of detecting is the thrill of a new detector... Not that I put any coins back in the hole. I'm in my early 70's and I think that I have a couple more detectors in me especially if I can keep from digging all this junk with the XP. LOL Have a good day guys.
 
I AM ALSO A NEW- BE
with the deus so we all are learning together ! if you like just dig 80s and up and dont notch any thing there should be only a sm. amount of trash

wen we first start out and dont realy know the detector , we miss many good targets. but wen you have a year under your belt, go back over them spots

were you started and now experance takes over and it will be like your in a new spot. i have seen this first hand wen you know the detector in and out

thats were you will find the deep targets. small steps at first and then open her up and GO !!
 
howdy....Will be getting my xp this Friday...I don't understand why you would disc out at 8....then notch out 8 thru 30....why not just disc out to 30???

Sorry for dumb question

Ron
 
You lose depth after disc above 10.
Disc at 8 and Notching 8 - 30 no depth loss, but same effect as if it were discriminated to 30.
 
Awesome! Didn't know that. Thanks. Still trying to figure out what reactivity and silencer are?

Lol. Will keep reading.

Thanks
 
Same as any athlete.... to get good takes practice
practice and more practice...
It doesn't take much to set up some scenarios and
get your ears better trained... and it's a good way to pass
time when it's cold....
For me it's like Golf... I hate to go play cold without
having spent a few hours practicing first...
If you're expecting V4 or the next new machine to have
all the answers I hate to burst your bubble... It's still
the guy who knows his machine the best who will
be the most successful....
We all dig junk some more than others is all and I
love finding that occasional bling worth more than all
my coins for the year, so I dig the junk... but I've found
there is a tone signature to them as well... HH
 
One thing I notice that's overlooked far too much is the frequency and it's affect
on the machines ability to differentiate between targets....

If you take good look at the VDI charts you'll notice how the targets get more crammed together
the higher the frequency is set....

By staying in the lower frequencies there is a much wider separation between targets and while
you might say this is only the VDI values it must also greatly impact the machines ability to
differentiate between targets in the audio portion as well.... and we all know the Audio accuracy
or "tonal signature" of the targets as I refer to it, is probably close to twice the depth of the of the VDI
which is really just "bells and whistles" in my opinion....

Just food for thought... especially for the newer users trying to learn this beast and choose to follow the lead of
the 18k users (a big mistake IMHO)...
 
CO_T\Huntr said:
One thing I notice that's overlooked far too much is the frequency and it's affect
on the machines ability to differentiate between targets....

If you take good look at the VDI charts you'll notice how the targets get more crammed together
the higher the frequency is set....

By staying in the lower frequencies there is a much wider separation between targets and while
you might say this is only the VDI values it must also greatly impact the machines ability to
differentiate between targets in the audio portion as well.... and we all know the Audio accuracy
or "tonal signature" of the targets as I refer to it, is probably close to twice the depth of the of the VDI
which is really just "bells and whistles" in my opinion....

Just food for thought... especially for the newer users trying to learn this beast and choose to follow the lead of
the 18k users (a big mistake IMHO)...
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I agree, all tho I do use the 18kz from time to time, especially if I think there maybe some small gold jewelry in the area ( via volley ball courts) but I have found the higher the freq. the more trash I find, which I'm ok with,, gotta dig the junk to find the treasure..
 
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