White's Coinmaster Prizm DD Coil

[Greesmonky]

I have a new Coin Master Pro. I've done some park and road tear outs and WOW! So much trash in there!
I've read that a DD coil excells in these conditions. Which of these would be good, or none?
Prizm Mini DD
Eclipse Shooter
Blue Max

 

[coinhunterseth]

Only the prizm series coils will work on your detector. The rest are for other detectors and won't work.

 

[Bearharold]

They do make a small Prizm 4x6 DD coil for your detector that works real well in thick trashy area's but it won't be as deep as the big coils but perfect for trash area's . Remember when detecting trash go slow and low .

 

[Monte]

so far as smaller-than-stock coils from White's. It will do better in a dense trash environment than the standard 9" Coin GT coil.

That said, the Coin GT is an okay general purpose coin hunting detectors, but the response and recovery time is not the best for working goodies out of trashier sites, especially if rejecting some small iron like nails.

How long have you been metal detecting?

By 'trashy' how trashy are the sites you mention, and what types of trash are you mainly dealing with? What's your definition of 'dense' trash?

Monte

 

[Greesmonky]

Hmm. Many hits that are various size iron, aluminum, and unknown. Dug up one piece of iron about 4x10". I was thinking of going with "the Nail Man" instead of my old stand by Greesmonky.
How long have I been detecting? A month or two.

 

[Monte]

With the Coinmaster Prizm DD shooter coil, or any other DD coil on most any other detector, you will note that generally the Discrimination and resultant visual TID read-out will be less accurate [size=small](jumpier and more inconsistent)[/size] than with a similar-size Concentric search coil. It's a long known fact that most detectors that have been designed for most hobbyists who engage in Coin Hunting have been designed to be somewhat versatile.

By "somewhat versatile" I am referring to most of them being sold with Concentric type search coils, but they have available Double-D search coils offered by the detector manufacturer, and for the past decade or more we have seen a big trend for after-market search coils. Almost all of the other-source coil makers are promoting only DD coils, not concentric. What I have noted through the past few decades of owning and/or using a lot of the popular makes and models so designed, they seemed to be at their best withy a Concentric search coil, and displayed a more inconsistent audio response and visual read-out when using a Double-D coil. That has just been the norm.

My all-time favorite White's detectors include the MXT Pro/All-Pro, XLT, IDX Pro, Classic ID, 6000 Pro XL/XL Pro and MX5. All designed to work with Concentric coils and all with available DD coils, and in every case the performance with factory-produced or aftermarket DD coils has been less accurate and/or consistent. Not as tight a response, and that has been especially true when hunting in more iron based trash.

Using the elliptical shooter Prizm DD coil on the Coinmaster can be a little difficult to learn and process than with a similar-size Concentric.

Hmm. Many hits that are various size iron, aluminum, and unknown. Dug up one piece of iron about 4x10".

Encountering a lot of ferrous targets, especially larger-size or odd-shaped iron junk, can get interesting to learn how to 'classify' ferrous from non-ferrous. Using proper settings and search techniques, you can eliminate recovering a certain amount of iron. Learning, however, can be fun and interesting.

I was thinking of going with "the Nail Man" instead of my old stand by Greesmonky.

Not sure what you mean here. It too bad White's didn't make a good smaller-size Concentric coil for the Coinmaster series as I think it would have been better than the 'Shooter' DD.

How long have I been detecting? A month or two.

With only a month or two under your belt you have a long way to go as you learn more about search coil design and performance, detector types and the settings they provide, and more importantly the benefits of going with a more functional, more versatile detector. I don't mean the most expensive out there, but something in the mid-price range that I would consider to be a "multi-purpose" detector.

Keep on searching, finding, and learning as you go.

Monte

 

[airscapes]

If you want to keep using your CM Pro you could invest in a NEL Hunter Coil. Size wise it is about a 1:1 replacement for the stock coil but it is a DD and presents a narrow blade shaped detection field that will give you much better separation or targets. However, before spending another $100 on your entry level machine you may want to just keep using what you have and saving your quarters to get something a little higher up the food chain that comes with a DD to start with.
You do not have your location in your signature but if by some strange chance you are in the Philadelphia area, I could let you try out the NELL and the 4x6.

 

[airscapes]

Tried to send you a pm, but you do not have enough post yet.. PM me when you have enough posts, send the subject as Coinmaster Pro coil so I remember what I wanted to tell you.

 

[Greesmonky]

All I meant with the Nail Man thing was everyone has a moniker (handle in CB lingo). I've dug up so many nails in my own yard, I could start a hardware store!